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halfempty November 17 2008, 08:27:48 UTC


Whatevs! You wouldn't be (and haven't been) satisfied no matter what he says or does anyway.

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eyelidlessness November 17 2008, 08:35:01 UTC
The US doesn't torture, my ass. And re Gitmo, we'll see. That would be a real improvement, but... go figure that comes in the context of more bellicose WoT saber rattling.

And yeah, I'd be more satisfied if his politics weren't so abhorrent. And note, I wasn't talking about him, I was talking about him and McCain.

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nosurrendercell November 17 2008, 17:30:32 UTC
I hear you. There's this bizarre intellectual honeymoon thats been going on for the last year and a half that makes people think Obama and McCain are serving different interests. I found it a lot stranger on the Obama side because people have pretty much declared him the liberal messiah.

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