Other People's Pair Bonding

Mar 24, 2012 07:34

Immediately after our break up, all of my exes have gone on to date some other women who looked a very great deal like me, but perhaps with different hair. They have all proceeded to marry that woman. I am apparently an unconscious match maker ( Read more... )

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Marvel Fandom anonymous March 27 2012, 23:27:27 UTC
I've just browsed the admittedly pathetic Avengers anon meme, and wow. Between the grudgewank on this meme and the cattiness of that one, is the Marvel fandom always that terrible on LJ? Everything is "don't read 90% of this canon because it's TERRIBLE" or "this other person in fandom sucks!" or "this story is terrible!" With side dishes of "you're racist/sexist/homophobic/a troll if you don't like the same ships as I do!" There seem to be completely ridiculous hating on ships and characters for no real reason.

Jesus. Are there sane corners of this fandom hiding somewhere, or is genuinely as crazy as it seems? The tumblr sections of this fandom seem fine, but the whinge and childishness on LJ makes me feel like I'm in HP fandom again. Maybe there's a reason there are only 5 people posting over and over again on that meme.

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Re: Marvel Fandom anonymous March 27 2012, 23:36:54 UTC
I don't think it's crazier than other anon memes, but it's enough to make me want to limit my interaction with fandom to the movie's kink meme. Maybe it'll get better once the movie comes out and new fans flock to it (or maybe another one will be started altogether).

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Re: Marvel Fandom anonymous March 27 2012, 23:45:29 UTC
Except that's all on that anon meme? It doesn't seem to be evidenced much in the rest of LJ fandom. Mostly people just seem to go about their ways and write fic and stuff.

I guess there's that troll or whatever, but the comms I'm in seem pretty open and friendly.

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Re: Marvel Fandom anonymous March 27 2012, 23:53:07 UTC
NA

Are there any active, non-pairing specific comms out there? I'm only just now (as in the last few days) getting interested, and haven't had time to go searching.

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Re: Marvel Fandom anonymous March 28 2012, 00:03:31 UTC
AYRT: I don't know. I think there's an ontd marvel or Avengers, but I'm not sure how active it is.

Three's a new Avengers challenge comm, some big bang stuff, and a couple comms that just have fic for everyone.

I just follow my pairing comms and catch everything else though the newsletter.

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Re: Marvel Fandom anonymous March 28 2012, 01:01:57 UTC
I'm glad you said this. As someone who's attempting to write in the fandom, I've had to swear off looking at that comm at all -- and honestly haven't come here in a while either. Basically you can't win if you write. I honestly want to slap huge warnings on any fic NOT TRYING TO BE CANON ANYTHING AND NOT TAKING SIDES ON ANY SHIPS, but that's ridiculous and even that wouldn't make people stop.

Following individual people on lj/tumblr works great though, and the kink memes seem fine mainly.

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Re: Marvel Fandom anonymous March 28 2012, 01:05:48 UTC
Re: Marvel Fandom anonymous March 28 2012, 01:54:20 UTC
I recently got into Avengers and I'm hesitant to post my stuff in this fandom as well. People in it seem to take fic so seriously. But then I come from fandoms that don't even have anon memes, so maybe I'm just not used to it yet.

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Re: Marvel Fandom anonymous March 28 2012, 01:57:45 UTC
The number of kudos and comments almost every single fic receives on AO3 kind of puts you in a pretty solid space re: squee vs. critique, I'd think?

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Re: Marvel Fandom anonymous March 28 2012, 02:43:22 UTC
I'm going to assume from this comment that you don't write ( ... )

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Re: Marvel Fandom anonymous March 28 2012, 03:04:52 UTC
AYRT ( ... )

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Re: Marvel Fandom anonymous March 28 2012, 03:17:02 UTC
Awww thank you for this nice response. I was thinking about it and I think I conflated a few different things and overstated others. Meaning, I think you're right about just about everything. <3 ( ... )

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Re: Marvel Fandom anonymous March 28 2012, 03:29:03 UTC
DA

I've mostly seen people complaining that people aren't writing movie canon. They're writing a mish of canon that doesn't resemble anything, movies included, and doesn't feel a much like the authors care about the characters.

If you're writing straight up movie fandom, or writing a mix of fandoms and label it as such, people will be fine about it. If you say you don't care about mishing canons, people will probably be fine about it, so long as they're warned.

Mostly fandom as a whole seems to be pretty positive about the new people, and they are getting nice reviews and recs.

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Re: Marvel Fandom anonymous March 28 2012, 05:52:59 UTC
I guess even that feels pretty Judgey to me, the idea that one should have to announce what elements of a character one is and isn't including. Writers are giving a gift to people and I'm not sure they should have to announce their lack of ~purity for people to read without immediately jumping to the nasty judgment that they obviously "don't care about the characters" (quoting them here, not you!). Maybe the writers are doing their best and taking the elements they want... so what? Will the universe implode? I guess I think that fic should be judged based on its overall merits, rather than some determination of how pure it is or how many hours the writer spent doing research ( ... )

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Re: Marvel Fandom anonymous March 28 2012, 06:32:37 UTC
even that feels pretty Judgey to me, the idea that one should have to announce what elements of a character one is and isn't including. It's standard practice in every fandom that has multiple versions of canon. Would you write a fic that combined that new American Sherlock Holmes show where Watson is a girl with the movies with RDJ and Jude Law and then post it to a BBC Sherlock comm labeled as as a BBC Sherlock fic? Would you write a Sherlock AU where John and Sherlock were talking mice like in that Disney cartoon with mouse!Holmes and mouse!Watson and then not label it AU (or "crackfic" or something to indicate that the humans are now mice)? I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume no ( ... )

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Re: Marvel Fandom anonymous March 28 2012, 06:45:44 UTC
Augh, this! I think of it as being equivalent to posting Smallville fic to a DCU community and claiming it's set in the comics. Or posting All Star Batman and Robin/Dark Knight Returns fic as main-canon fic, which would absolutely get people asking why the hell Dick and Bruce are so absurdly OOC. Fandoms with multiple, totally distinct continuities generally label the continuities they're using. It's better for everyone that way.

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