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cowgrrl July 10 2009, 00:25:00 UTC
The South Park joke was going through my head at the end of the episode. I'm so glad I was spoilered for this so I was prepared.

Without Ianto there is no Torchwood.

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rosykate July 10 2009, 00:32:10 UTC
hi, we've never met, but no one on my flist has watched it yet, and I just wanted to say how very much I agree with everything you said here (as I type through my tears).

We had the spoilers, but I - like many others, no doubt- didn't think TPTB would actually go there. I hope that someone notices when fandom EXPLODES in paroxysms of grief over the next 24 hours, but I don't know how much I would count on it :/

It is times like this that I wish I drank

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vsee July 10 2009, 00:51:45 UTC
I'm finished. Really, I have no other choice. I don't think I am even going to watch part 5.

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bandgeek01 July 10 2009, 01:06:30 UTC
beautifully written and you have me crying again.

NIcole

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mmekat July 10 2009, 01:22:52 UTC
Oh. Ow.

they said far far more than "I love you" ever could

So very much This.

You know, I get that sometimes characters have to die. Especially in a show with a worldview as dark as Torchwood's. But coming so soon on the heels of Tosh and Owen, it... It actually made me think of Serenity and Wash. (Or Willow and Tara)

Narratively speaking, I think they were trying to make the stakes intimate to the characters. Global devastation is hard to conceive emotionally; but someone you've invested three seasons worth of emotion into? It's a far easier task. Then there's the reaction from the one left behind -- grief, rage, vengeance.

Going into a Joss production, I expect to have my heart stomped on at some point. But to paraphrase -- RTD, you are no Joss Whedon.

And I haven't even begun to process how I feel as a gay audience member. On the one hand, everyone in Torchwood is not long for this world, on the other... it's disheartening.

Sorry. I'm rambling. Didn't mean to go on. Also, hello.

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bandgeek01 July 10 2009, 02:49:33 UTC
And I haven't even begun to process how I feel as a gay audience member. On the one hand, everyone in Torchwood is not long for this world, on the other... it's disheartening

I'm not gay but I can't even imagine the backlash from the aspect of we moved it to big network let's kill off the other half of a gay relationship.

Nicole

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mmekat July 10 2009, 04:28:04 UTC
I've settled on a mixture of resignation and anger. I really, really hoped for better from one of the few shows that not only stars an openly gay actor, but is run by an openly gay producer. Who at the very least should be aware of the cliche.

I'd go on, but this response to Tara's death on Buffy is equally applicable, and more eloquent than I can manage.

http://www.stephenbooth.org/lesbiancliche.htm

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bandgeek01 July 10 2009, 10:29:02 UTC
Thanks for that link. I really wasn't involved in fandom that much back then, but I do remember the backlash with that as well.

I too did hope for a bit more as well.

Nicole

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