So, about Predators. And by that I mostly mean about Walton in Predators -- the movie itself (well, the part of it I watched) is a pretty boring
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The whole movie, I was just waiting for him to tell everyone why he was on death row. I mean, I can guess, but I really wanted him to have a backstory. He was the only one I was really interested in. Everyone else was ridiculously boring.
Ugh, his "rape some bitches" speech was the greatest thing. I was like 'oh, great, he's gonna say something like "imma be a bettah man" or something cliche like that' but instead he says do cocaine and rape some bitches. Most entertaining 20 seconds of the whole movie.
Oh, he's a mass murderer. 38 kills (Walton Goggins described it as him 'going off his meds for three days' and 'having a really bad weekend'). I know this from interviews though. Maaaybe it's in the deleted scenes or something? They seemed to have cut a lot of the actually INTERESTING parts (there's supposed to be one scene of him going up to Isabelle with a 'we're all gonna die plz let's have sex' offer -- I wanna see THAT).
Heh, I liked it partially (the cliche subversion, absolutely) and at the same time found it kinda cringeworthy. And Topher's response was pretty awesome.
I finally came to the decision that I really want to go see the movie and so I asked each and every one of my friends and they were all like "hell no". And since I don't have enough self confidence to go on my own I guess I'm waiting on a DVD release. Which depresses the shit out of me and makes me sad because all the reviews I've read are about how fucking awesome Walton is. Then again the only reviews I've read are the ones re-posted on your tumblr and Walton-Goggins.com so they may be a little biased lol. But it sounds like you got to go see it can you give me any idea how much of the movie he's actually in. Like according to IMDB the movie is 106 minutes long how much do you estimate Walton is in those 106 mintues?
LOL well I did a lot of review mining and he's mentioned quite often as a standout. So it's biased but not entirely. :P Also, I wouldn't say I got to go see it, exactly, as it is not out here yet (there are alternate sources >_>). There's absolutely nothing wrong with going to see a movie alone, though!
As for how long... He shows up pretty much at the beginning and dies around 1:15, so about 70 minutes, but the thing is, there's a lot of action so he doesn't get too many lines (he's more prominent than most, though -- I'd say about fourth after Brody, Braga and Topher presence-wise).
Only Walton and Danny Trejo seem to be able to use 'fuck' organically. With the likes of Adrien Brody and Topher Grace, it comes out really forced. Apparently it's a talent?
Fuck yes! Cursing fluidly and seamlessly in a conversation is a natural talent that you either have or you don't. A writer can write it to flow perfectly, but if the actor can't deliver it convincingly, it ends up sounding horrid. I'm convinced that is the true reason most films cap the number of curses. Most actors just can't use profanity convincingly.
I haven't seen it yet (waiting on a friend to organize a movie night) but I may just go see it tomorrow. I've stopped expecting character development from movies like this because a large cast usually just translates into a body count with names. My problem is that I love this genre so I always end up making up back stories for the characters I like and AUing the hell out of the film because the ones I like are always killed.
Yeah, and partially it's the gratuitous use of 'fuck'. I'm used to mostly hearing fuck overload on HBO (Deadwood takes the trophy there) but they know how to use it stylistically so it's rarely forced, and the actors know how to deal with it (I was always amused that they weren't allowed to say fuck on the Shield, while Shane had lines like 'a back-full of shiv and an ass-full of cum' SO MUCH CLASSIER). But with Adrien Brody's ~badass mercenary~... just no.
I wasn't expecting much in the way of character development either, but the top movies of the genre, like Aliens, manage to create super-memorable (if super-broad) characters anyway. It didn't work to that extent with Predators, but I'd say Walton's character worked best. I kinda want fic. -_- And maybe I'll take a shot at RPing him at some point, 'cause he seems like he'd be a lot of fun.
It really is a shame that fuck is the word that symbolizes a hard 'R' rating or being gritty and "real" in the film industry because the gratuitous use makes it sound so damn silly. Plus it's lazy writing. 'Oh we need something for him to shout here. I know, we'll have him say "Fuck".' That's why TV censor dubs tend to fascinate me. They tend to be ridiculous, but they're creatively ridiculous.
(I was always amused that they weren't allowed to say fuck on the Shield, while Shane had lines like 'a back-full of shiv and an ass-full of cum' SO MUCH CLASSIER) LOL creative profanity at its finest. i love it when the cable shows have to work around the profanity restrictions because they come up with lines which are so much worse than if the character had just cursed.
It saddens me to think what the genre has devolved into. The screen time is dedicated to FX and body count, no room for character. He seems like he would be an awesome character to RP. Then again I'm someone who is supposed to be RPing Captain Nolan from Orca.
Yeah, it's ridiculous how fuck took on such a mythical role, especially since it's such a casual word irl. I love the clusterfuck effect when done right though. Can be hilarious (Bad Santa is probably my favorite gratuitous-use-of-fuck-to-an-awesome-effect movie).
I guess it's just a genre that's hard to get right, especially compared to the classics. It requires archetypical characters that are still unique and interesting, and balancing it out with action probably isn't easy (have you seen Dog Soldiers? It's low-budgety, but I think it does a good job with the characters). I think Stans would be helluva fun to play. It's nice when a character has no inhibitions and is just free to be an asshole (Adrien Brody actually calls him that at one point and that's gotta be the only time I really liked his character xD), but still have some weird redeeming characteristics. Early Shane is a little bit like that (nowhere near that extreme, obviously, but there are Stans lines that could have been Shane's).
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Ugh, his "rape some bitches" speech was the greatest thing. I was like 'oh, great, he's gonna say something like "imma be a bettah man" or something cliche like that' but instead he says do cocaine and rape some bitches. Most entertaining 20 seconds of the whole movie.
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Heh, I liked it partially (the cliche subversion, absolutely) and at the same time found it kinda cringeworthy. And Topher's response was pretty awesome.
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As for how long... He shows up pretty much at the beginning and dies around 1:15, so about 70 minutes, but the thing is, there's a lot of action so he doesn't get too many lines (he's more prominent than most, though -- I'd say about fourth after Brody, Braga and Topher presence-wise).
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No but seriously, it's a lousy quality cam version, but I can link you if you want.
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Fuck yes! Cursing fluidly and seamlessly in a conversation is a natural talent that you either have or you don't. A writer can write it to flow perfectly, but if the actor can't deliver it convincingly, it ends up sounding horrid. I'm convinced that is the true reason most films cap the number of curses. Most actors just can't use profanity convincingly.
I haven't seen it yet (waiting on a friend to organize a movie night) but I may just go see it tomorrow. I've stopped expecting character development from movies like this because a large cast usually just translates into a body count with names. My problem is that I love this genre so I always end up making up back stories for the characters I like and AUing the hell out of the film because the ones I like are always killed.
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I wasn't expecting much in the way of character development either, but the top movies of the genre, like Aliens, manage to create super-memorable (if super-broad) characters anyway. It didn't work to that extent with Predators, but I'd say Walton's character worked best. I kinda want fic. -_- And maybe I'll take a shot at RPing him at some point, 'cause he seems like he'd be a lot of fun.
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(I was always amused that they weren't allowed to say fuck on the Shield, while Shane had lines like 'a back-full of shiv and an ass-full of cum' SO MUCH CLASSIER)
LOL creative profanity at its finest. i love it when the cable shows have to work around the profanity restrictions because they come up with lines which are so much worse than if the character had just cursed.
It saddens me to think what the genre has devolved into. The screen time is dedicated to FX and body count, no room for character. He seems like he would be an awesome character to RP. Then again I'm someone who is supposed to be RPing Captain Nolan from Orca.
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I guess it's just a genre that's hard to get right, especially compared to the classics. It requires archetypical characters that are still unique and interesting, and balancing it out with action probably isn't easy (have you seen Dog Soldiers? It's low-budgety, but I think it does a good job with the characters). I think Stans would be helluva fun to play. It's nice when a character has no inhibitions and is just free to be an asshole (Adrien Brody actually calls him that at one point and that's gotta be the only time I really liked his character xD), but still have some weird redeeming characteristics. Early Shane is a little bit like that (nowhere near that extreme, obviously, but there are Stans lines that could have been Shane's).
I haven't seen Orca. What is it?
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but if I see this movie I plan to enjoy this character
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