Re: Not really on the strike businessfantom07March 20 2008, 18:18:46 UTC
Personally, I think the LJ/SUP isn't a very SMART business, seeing how they appear to be going after "how much money can we make?" and avoiding "how can we make our clients happy?" However - seeing how many people are on livejournal, active or not, I can understand why they don't care as much - I don't think there is one, solid, unified MAJORITY on LJ. Everybody's a minority in some sense when you get to be as huge as you are. However, despite LJ/SUP being stupid businesswise, they still aren't fucking up to a degree where I need to take my business elsewhere
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Re: Not really on the strike businessamaresuMarch 20 2008, 19:43:42 UTC
Everybody's a minority in some sense when you get to be as huge as you are
And that's it exactly. LJ/Sup is big. Bigger than people realize. They don't need to cater to the individual groups. It would be a good idea to stop pissing them off though.
Most people don't care about the business practices of the company. I understand that they are a company and they will make money and really they haven't done anything to impede my ability to enjoy LJ so why do I care? I think that's most people's stance.
And really they may have crappy customer service, but they still offer the best product. I have wordpress, insanejournal, and journalfen accounts and frankly the main reason for not moving is that LJ provides the best service. I'm not gonna move to a site that doesn't offer me the services I want unless the majority of fandom moves. And fandom (as a whole)only moves when better technology comes along.
Godwin has probably already been invoked. Go check out the lj_biz or lj_policy posts. Bet there's something there.
Re: Not really on the strike businessfantom07March 20 2008, 20:07:04 UTC
I would imagine it would take A LOT to get all of fandom off of LIveJournal (although that strikethrough incident definitely got a lot of panties in a wad).
Somewhere in my search for anti-content strike posts I came across a comment that basically stated people who were participating in this "strike" were taking themselves far, far, faaaaaaaar too seriously. I agree with this, because the community that follows LJ policy seems to be a community all on their own.
Questions - is LJ a fandom? y/n
As for Godwin and perusing the Lj_biz/Lj_policy posts - while I have the day off, I think my time is better spent doing the dishes and cleaning then wading through sixty five billion posts of WAAAH WAAAH WAAAH! although the offer is rather tempting. However, I need my brain cells to get me through grad school.
I'm not against advertising at all, I'm intensely displeased by things like beacon and what the +account advertising targeting that's going on, cause LJ needs to stay the fuck out of my content creating basic account's business and what I'm doing on the Intarwebs. There's a difference between a concept like adSense where you look at what I'm publically entering or saying to you, and respond by pulling advertisements b,d, and k out that are theoretically similar to me. However, following me around for the rest of my activities online while I go look at whatever porn I feel like, etc does not sit well with me.
Additionally just setting up random blogs and an RSS reader now enables more or less exactly the same service that LJ provides
And that's a fair statement to make, although I have not seen any proof that they are going to use beacon. I know that someone used beacon as an example, but from what I've read, I have not heard that LJ is actually going to use that
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indeed, the content strike is useless. Aside from it not being particularly useful, I'm not doing it since I most likely wouldn't post tomorrow anyway XD
even just Blogger is perfectly useful and sponsored in such a way that I'm not offended by. Failing to just setup my own blog with like typepad etc and actually get paid to create content myself =O (which I really should do)
I'm really only just displeased from a privacy standpoint. If they want to do away with basic accounts being created fine, I'd get slightly emo if they retroactively fucked up basic accounts as that would effect me more. But I still use shit like deviantart that is a hideous advertising place. About the only worse thing that place could do that they don't get is use douchetastic interstitials.
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And that's it exactly. LJ/Sup is big. Bigger than people realize. They don't need to cater to the individual groups. It would be a good idea to stop pissing them off though.
Most people don't care about the business practices of the company. I understand that they are a company and they will make money and really they haven't done anything to impede my ability to enjoy LJ so why do I care? I think that's most people's stance.
And really they may have crappy customer service, but they still offer the best product. I have wordpress, insanejournal, and journalfen accounts and frankly the main reason for not moving is that LJ provides the best service. I'm not gonna move to a site that doesn't offer me the services I want unless the majority of fandom moves. And fandom (as a whole)only moves when better technology comes along.
Godwin has probably already been invoked. Go check out the lj_biz or lj_policy posts. Bet there's something there.
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Somewhere in my search for anti-content strike posts I came across a comment that basically stated people who were participating in this "strike" were taking themselves far, far, faaaaaaaar too seriously. I agree with this, because the community that follows LJ policy seems to be a community all on their own.
Questions - is LJ a fandom? y/n
As for Godwin and perusing the Lj_biz/Lj_policy posts - while I have the day off, I think my time is better spent doing the dishes and cleaning then wading through sixty five billion posts of WAAAH WAAAH WAAAH! although the offer is rather tempting. However, I need my brain cells to get me through grad school.
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Additionally just setting up random blogs and an RSS reader now enables more or less exactly the same service that LJ provides
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even just Blogger is perfectly useful and sponsored in such a way that I'm not offended by. Failing to just setup my own blog with like typepad etc and actually get paid to create content myself =O (which I really should do)
I'm really only just displeased from a privacy standpoint. If they want to do away with basic accounts being created fine, I'd get slightly emo if they retroactively fucked up basic accounts as that would effect me more. But I still use shit like deviantart that is a hideous advertising place. About the only worse thing that place could do that they don't get is use douchetastic interstitials.
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