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Mar 05, 2009 14:12

I cannot believe the level to which RaceFail'09 has escalated. It is so utterly ridiculous and off point by now that I can't even articulate my reaction ( Read more... )

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theodosia March 5 2009, 22:13:19 UTC
I'm still working out how I feel about all that's gone down.

I do have to say, it has to be easier to detect racism in other's attitudes and actions than in one's own, and be in plausible denial about one's own unconscious attitudes.

I think what most upsets me that that there was a perfectly good teachable moment at the start of the kerfuffle and it's gotten bulldozed over and forgotten as this has expanded to a clash of online cultures and customs, et cetera.

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forodwaith March 6 2009, 00:26:56 UTC
Your first paragraph pretty much expresses it for me at this point.

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hecubot March 6 2009, 03:51:09 UTC
Not to defend anybody, but "when one discovers one is a racist" is exactly where people are talking past each other in this discussion.

And - from my observation - much of this is a generational difference about what racism means.

For the older, entrenched SF writers it means: "Klan/lynching/George Wallace/Redneck hatred." That's the whole of the meaning.

For the younger folks who were exposed to all kinds of cultural/feminist/black studies approaches it means: "Beneficiary of institutional, historical and cultural bias."

I don't know why that's so hard for everybody to see, but again and again I see people talking past each other in this discussion. They're using the same words but not the same language at all.

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