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Dec 20, 2005 15:07


I can't decide what I think of this...

So I feel I should first off again note that I am a proponent of the first amendment and feel that forced religious perspectives are not a part of public education.  However, the modern stance of no education pertaining to anythign religious (and really I mean anythign Christian) is kind of reversely ( Read more... )

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spkr4thedead51 December 20 2005, 20:53:51 UTC
You should feel happy about this. ID is not science, no matter how you turn it. This is not a case of reverse discrimination -- the only topic that is being taught is modern darwinian evolution. No ID. No Hindu creation. No Incan creation. Nothing else.

You're making a horrible logical jump in your thoughts here. Are there problems with instances like you mention? Yes. But they have absolutely nothing to do with this case. To answer your question, this group taught ID. Not openmindedness.

Nothing in science deserves a special disclaimer. Everything is a theory. Everything is getting tweaked in our understanding almost daily. And all science should be taught with that cachet. The fact that it isn't is almost as big of a problem as trying to teach something that isn't science in a science class.

Alternative ideas do deserve class time. But in a class that they actually belong in. Comparative religions, history classes. Not science classes.

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fenrisncsu December 20 2005, 21:04:35 UTC
were they teaching ID or was it simply a note saying others disagree research more? That's is what i got out of it. They weren't teaching it just recognizing theory.

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mshelby December 20 2005, 21:04:29 UTC
if you want details, here's what the judge wrote:

To be sure, Darwin's theory of evolution is imperfect. However, the fact that a scientific theory cannot yet render an explanation on every point should not be used as a pretext to thrust an untestable alternative hypothesis grounded in religion into the science classroom or to misrepresent well-established scientific propositions ( ... )

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fenrisncsu December 20 2005, 21:13:38 UTC
answered my own question. I agree that we should teach science, i didn't put that up well enough my apologies. and I would like to note that ID is not solely a Christian ideal. Greg knows better where i stand on this one and as usual we agree to disagree. I don't know all the facts about this one but i remember in HS reading books about hinduism, islam and babylonian mythology. We read ester too but i fail to agree that is the best book to represent Judeo-Christianity. The court probably did rule correctly in this circumstance, but the day i see a comparative religion course in HS will be the day i say our education system is working.

Evolution is the way to go. I never doubted that, my HS biology teacher is one of hte best Christians i have ever met and he fully agreed with Mr. Darwin (who in fact was a devout Christian until his daughter's death).

My apologies again on a rant that I wasn't really on my A game with, but at least we're talking

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