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[ferretlightning]

I find the increasing rhetoric about Muslims to be absolutely horrific. I'm shocked and astounded and growing rather afraid. What's most frightening is seeing it come from members of religious groups that are also persecuted by Christians

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[dracphelan]

While I disagree with objections to the Mosque, I can understand where many people are coming from. I have lived many places in the world and the most repressive was Saudi Arabia, which is run under Islamic law. One week a year they would throw acid at women they did not approve of with the approval of the government.
As I tried to make clear in Twitter, the USA has only been violently attacked in the name of a one religion that I know of. This translates into some people seeing the threat as being all Muslims. Now, IMO, blaming all Muslims for this is the same as blaming all Christians for the Westboro Baptist Church nut jobs.

As an aside, did you know that there is a Greek Orthodox church that is having problems getting rebuilt. It was there on the World Trade Center grounds. But, they are having problems with the BY Port Authority getting everything set up so they can rebuild.

[ferretlightning]

The thing is, I get how worldwide, Muslims are problematic, so say the least. It's horrific. However, Christians in that part of the world don't treat their women or anyone else much better. It's more of a cultural thing and not just a religious one

[ferretlightning]

Actually...I should correct myself. Muslims worldwide are not all horrific. European, Australian, American...they are all very different from their Middle Eastern counterparts. All the religious groups in that part of the world are a wacky. It's a cultural thing that is so deeply inbred, it doesn't matter what religion someone is a member of there, they are far round the bend wacko by our standards. Let's face it: that part of the world has people that are still angry about The Crusades.

[weaselpants]

Two things Tim.

1 Repeat the statement about the Orthodox Church again.

On the grounds, is the important part. Nothing has been built there yet. And contrary to certain media outlets, the Ground Zero Mosque is actually a few blocks away.

2 Jewsish Defense League, Operation Rescue, Ku Klux Klan, Army of God, Hutaree, Scott Roeder, Eric Rudpolph and arguably Concerned Christians. Although to be fair the last group were American christian terrorists who targeted Israel.

People are coming from ignorance. It's not that they hate Muslims. It's that they hate the imaginary monsters that they think Muslims are. As a member of a multiple minorities that haven't always been treated nicely, and a veteran who has spent nearly a year and a half dealing with the fallout of ethnic strife, I find this whole situation to be horrifying.

[tannin1138]

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[ferretlightning]

Glad you like it! I just made it a public post. Knock yourself out. :-P

Yes.

[captainwhimsy]

Despite the me-too ness of it all, I agree with you. People getting in a tizzy over Fear is just dumb all around. Why aren't they worried about the millions of Muslims in America right now? They already meet in mosques, if they think they are the source of terrorist activity, you think having one more mosque will actually change that?

So. Dumb.

Re: Yes.

[ferretlightning]

I love what Keith Oberman said about this: we've sent soldiers to Iraq to die to protect Muslims, but we're not OK with letting them build something in NYC.

[kira_snugz]

i don't know you, or actually have any clue how i got to your lj (been awake for over 36 hours) but this is beautifully written. and thank you for posting it openly.

as a pagan who has been harassed constantly, and who is sick of all the bs on the news about this situation, thank you. i don't even live in the states and i am so sick of all this hostility.

its not the christianity that my grandparents grew up with, and i hate that its the christianity that my daughter will grow up fearing.

[ferretlightning]

I'm glad you like it. I'm sorry you've had to deal with so much harassment too. There are so many Christians that don't think like the far right. Yet I'm seeing polls that indicate many more still fear Muslims. And I worry for Muslims and the rest of us. And I worry about raising kids in an environment that is increasingly hostile to them. Where we hear rhetoric that is the same as that my husband's great grandfather heard that caused him to flee Germany to America. I'm glad you found this too. :-)