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Mar 11, 2009 23:49

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kawaiiryuko March 12 2009, 17:24:22 UTC
Are you pro- or against- merit pay?

I think, just because you are anecdotally on the high-end of the motivation/commitment ladder, doesn't mean that /all/ teachers are. Everything in life is a bell curve, after all. ;)

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fiendess March 25 2009, 01:04:55 UTC
against.
mostly on a practical level. there is no reliable and fair way to measure good teaching. test scores do not reflect a host of factors and anything else is subject to favoritism and/or bad judgement.
but also on an intrinsic to the idea level. encouraging ruthless competition is not a good idea for teachers. why would i want to train a student teacher or share a really good lesson that could benefit all of my colleague's students if there is a zero sum game of bonus money?
basically teaching is an entirely different paradigm than sales or billable hours.

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fiendess March 25 2009, 01:31:39 UTC
oh, and there are totally people WAY less motivated/committed than I am. I just don't think money would necessarily motivate them more. If they wanted to work harder for more money there are plenty of other jobs they could seek out.

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ah, but.... anonymous March 13 2009, 03:33:15 UTC
A merit pay structure that moved teacher salaries in to the low 6 figure range would do wonders to tempt all sorts of bright people into teaching.

Which 45k and ironclad protection does not

Plus with merit pay you get the possiblity of a merit system

and then you can cut lose deadwood

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Re: ah, but.... fiendess March 25 2009, 01:30:05 UTC
A merit pay structure that moved teacher salaries in to the low 6 figure range would do wonders to tempt all sorts of bright people into teaching.
so would raising teachers salaries in general.

Which 45k and ironclad protection does not
Those ironclad protections were hard won and are there because subjecting a system that needs stability to management whims invites disaster. I wouldn't give them up for more money. And the bright young things wouldn't stay very long without them - they probably wouldn't make it long enough to get good enough to get the merit pay. (also, i make more than 45k anyway.)

Plus with merit pay you get the possiblity of a merit system
only in theory. teaching merit is neigh impossible to measure fairly and reliably.
yes, that may be true of other jobs too, but that doesn't make it a feature.
also, car dealership is a merit system? mortgage broker is a merit system?

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Re: ah, but.... anonymous March 26 2009, 15:53:05 UTC
Technically dealerhips and brokers are merit systems....you work harder you make more ( ... )

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