I wish there was a special task force focused solely on "Nice Guys".

Sep 21, 2011 14:29

You really need to read the whole thing because the author is one of those whiny “nice guys” who doesn’t understand why women don’t like him despite the fact that he went to Yale.



Article excerpts are in italics, my rant it regular text. Bolded text is for super special misogyny!

I was sitting on a fold-out couch, wearing only my boxers, when Daniel’s email popped up. There was no subject line, just a simple YouTube link. Over the next hour, I watched all seven videos on Simple Pickup’s channel, each three times over. I couldn’t quite explain my delirium until I read a comment posted by user SeaWeedBrain013: “You guys are my heroes. I don’t understand how your pants can withstand the weight of your balls.

Simple Pickup’s YouTube channel is devoted to picking up girls. The stars - Kong, Jesse and Jason - film themselves on the streets of Los Angeles, approaching random women, making them laugh, then getting their numbers. In their 16 videos, they’ve picked up 125 numbers. I counted.

Like all red-blooded males, I’d heard of “The Game,” the New York Times bestseller that introduced America to the art of seduction. I’d even read it. Mediocre shows like VHI’s “The Pickup Artist” went further in exposing the “secrets” of the pickup community - for instance, that a “neg” is a backhanded compliment to a pretty girl to get her attention. But these Simple Pickup videos - these guys - were literally the first time I’d seen proof of pickup artists in real life. They weren’t ridiculous fops like Mystery, the dusty and irrelevant host of “The Pickup Artist,” with his feather boas and guyliner. They looked like the dudes who’d gone to Yale with me - normal-looking and nice, self-professed former nerds. Within a week, every guy I knew had either showed me the videos or been sent them by me. We were enamored with the even-keeled, irreverent way they approached women. More important, watching them had given us the deadly confidence that we could do it, too.

Their style is endearing, irreverent and brash. They frequently deal in sexual innuendo, zoom off on absurd tangents, and act out for the sake of acting out. And yet, unlike 99.5 percent of the male population, they get phone numbers, on the street, of girls they have just met. That’s the goal of Simple Pickup: to get numbers.

Note that these guys spend all day trying to get women’s numbers. There is no mention of whether they ever try calling these women or have ever had a date with them. They. Get. Phone. Numbers. That’s it. Who even knows if these numbers are real? I’d like to know what their success rate is with getting actual numbers, I have a feeling it’s not 50%.

There’s no universal applicability with regards to what they say. But that’s what’s inspiring. Jesse tells me, “When you’re having a conversation, you can literally say whatever you want. Girls are very forgiving that way.” Besides, what’s more important is the foundation: a pitch-perfect tone that’s challenging, nonchalant and always loud, clear and pithy. It also helps to have their body language: head held high, strong and confident - and at the same time, displaying an almost professional sort of disaffection as well, with a shadow of a slouch and laconic, measured smiles.

Ah yes, the stereotype of the “forgiving nature of women”. Telling men that they can go up to women and say whatever they want because women either don’t care or have been brought up to dote on anything that comes out of a man’s mouth is such a load of retro bullshit that I almost threw my computer off my desk when I read it but there were people around and I didn’t want anyone getting hurt.

Most weeks, they film their videos in less than two hours. Just a small fraction of the numbers they pick up in real life are interesting enough to make it into a video. And as for failures? “We’ve all gotten slapped,” Jesse says. “But honestly, we laugh about it and move on.”

That’s right ladies, your outward display of displeasure at being harassed is simply a source of amusement for them. They aren’t viewing women as people, just objects. Objects don’t have feelings so nothing that these women say is of any meaning to them, they just need the appearance of scoring a phone number.

Give fylothea credit: She actually watched the video. When Simple Pickup first went viral, I eagerly showed it to one of my female friends, thinking she’d be as hooked as I was to their street magic. A minute and a half in, she turned to me and said, “How can you watch this entire thing?” Of all the videos on YouTube, from NASCAR, to cock fighting, to Megan Fox at a car wash, picking up girls might be the most gender-polarizing.

Wow, you mean reducing women to objects that either will or won’t give a bunch of overgrown little boys their phone numbers doesn’t elicit “ooo’s and aah’s” from women? Kooky broads!

By telling these men that there’s a quantifiable path toward learning how to be good with women, it gives them a tangible action plan, where before there was blind meandering. Pickup discards external glory - fame, the money of a hot start-up CEO, the body of an NBA player - for the simple trappings of knowledge and inner confidence. It’s a call to possibility; it’s a pathway to attracting the impossible the girl of our dreams.

You don’t know how quantifiable it is, they claim a success rate of 50% but really, how many of those numbers are real? How many of those women agree to meet up with these guys? I’d be willing to bet that if you are judging success as an actual date, their success rate is nowhere near 50%. I’m sure that the real standard of success is getting laid, in which case I’m sure it’s much, much closer to 0 than 50. Anyone can be cute in a one minute interaction, given an actual sit down date that requires conversation and real charm I don’t see these guys running it to the end zone.

Think of Simple Pickup’s videos as the male equivalent of the Hollywood 48-hour miracle diet; after all, men gaining confidence may be the closest corollary to women losing weight. By capturing evidence that they can pick up a girl in any situation, Simple Pickup is essentially saying, “I lost 30 pounds in two days! Here’s the proof! And you can too!” They make picking up numbers look easy; when you watch it enough times, you’ll realize that it actually is.

There is so much wrong with this….equating confidence in men to a woman losing weight??!!! What the actual fuck? Women don’t need confidence, just a tight ass. This guy went to Yale, ya’ll!

Simple Pickup’s videos teach Three Big Lessons. The first is that it’s not what you say, but how you say it. “When I first tried talking to a girl, I kept telling Kong it wasn’t going to work,” Jason said. “Then I realized you can get away with a lot more than you think.” A devil-may-care attitude and the right tone obviate the need for “the perfect line.” Inexperienced college students and “Starcraft” geeks (not mutually exclusive) take note: If Simple Pickup can get a number after telling a girl she likes semen on her back, a normal conversation should be easy.

Do I even have to parse that?

Women are people, if you approach them acting like a dumb fuck they will respond in kind. A polite approach is always a man’s best option and if the woman refuses to engage you any further, know enough to leave her alone as you do not know her and have no business trying to insinuate yourself into her life if she does not want you there. No woman owes a man a response, no woman owes a man a smile. What these guys are doing is street harassment, and the fact that other men seem to think it’s great means that feminism is still necessary.

I would like to ask the media as a whole to please not book these guys on talk shows. Do not give them a television show. Do not do anything to encourage this type of behavior, it’s enough that women have to deal with this and are told that it’s harmless and we should be thankful that men are paying attention to us, we don’t need to see it glorified anymore than it already is.
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