Something to ponder

Feb 22, 2009 11:44

When lap dancing with angels
please do remember
while they may be beautiful
they don't have a gender

and what exactly would make a bad lap dance ? Standing on a lap while wearing football cleats ???

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helwen February 22 2009, 18:21:42 UTC
No gender? Then how did some of them have children? Angels are interesting.

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flidaisairmid February 22 2009, 20:32:44 UTC
The did not and do not have children. Angels arde indeed interesting. For example, in Judeo Christian tradition angels were never created . They simply existed from the moment of creation,in their full population, and have never increased or decreased in population. Want to torment a fundamentalist ? Ask them to show you chapter and verse in scripture where angels were created, yet they are present at the creation of man, the sealing of the Garden and many other things. If God created all things major such as land sky , water,animals, man and plants, where did these "foot soldiers" come from ? And furthermore why is the grand battle between the "good "angels and he "bad "angels that determined who was a demon, how Lucifer came into power and so forth never mentioned, yet the rite of Exorcism in the Roman Catholic church deals with the removal of these out of no where demons -i.e.fallen angels, and there is no record of their creation ? It's a good question to pose at cocktail parties, or if you choose to shake up a spouse well versed ( ... )

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helwen February 23 2009, 03:05:15 UTC
Ah, interesting terminology ;)

On the angels though, according to some early sources, some of them did have children, fathering them on humans (see 10th Choir), creating a race of monsters and giants.

Later on, the church decided that angels didn't have gender.

The church likes to decide all sorts of things. At one point they decided Gabriel had done something wrong (I forget at the moment) so he went to Hell for a while. Then sometime later, they "rehabilitated" him and he was reinstated in Heaven.

Angels have a rather convoluted history. And of course they pre-date Christianity, so why not have an interesting history? :)

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flidaisairmid February 23 2009, 12:51:55 UTC
That is the point- if they reproduced with human the offspring is neither truly angelic or human. It is something entirely different- my speculation would be that is was the origin for the advertising geniuses who like to convince the world that they need this, OR the realm of inhabitants that collect and covet those single mismatched socks that wind up in the dryer.Something has to want them, as there seems to be an endless supply of them created !

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phoenixminstrel February 23 2009, 13:12:38 UTC
Interesting concept, analogy, commentary, and replies. The discussion can be both fascinating and frustrating at the same time.

Now if someone can tell me exactly how many angels can tap dance on the head of a pin, I'll be much more inclined to participate in the discussion. :)

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flidaisairmid February 23 2009, 13:15:46 UTC
The answer is Pi R Squared ...be afraid. Be very Afraid !

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