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Dual and I had a very long conversation about dicks. I felt it needed to be shared.
BE WARNED: IT IS LONG.
Relevant links are:
Gojyo and Zexion's second conversation: We pretend it's not in the ooc comm.
Their coffee shop date: It has dragons!
The fallout: Warning: contains dicks.
Appearance of a brother: They are being told off. :|
ornicocastle: ....Zexion has a weird idea of what polite is
that damn dual: he isn't swearing
that damn dual: that is polite
ornicocastle: pfft
ornicocastle: that is not polite
ornicocastle: he is the one insulting Gojyo
ornicocastle: notice how Gojyo isn't?
ornicocastle: ...well, wasn't
that damn dual: HE'S MAKING FUN OF HIM
that damn dual: AND HE DID BEFORE, TOO
ornicocastle: pfft, that doesn't count
that damn dual: YES IT DOES
ornicocastle: so not
ornicocastle: he was just pointing out Zexion's joke
ornicocastle: SO THAT ZEXION WOULDN'T SEEM RUDE
ornicocastle: SEE??
that damn dual: .....yeah, right
ornicocastle: it's how it worked :|
that damn dual: no
ornicocastle: yes
that damn dual: nope.
ornicocastle: Zexion is just too dumb to tell. :<
that damn dual: ...............................
that damn dual: YOU'RE NOT EVEN TRYING TO MAKE IT BELIEVABLE
that damn dual: a) IT WASN'T EVEN A JOKE
that damn dual: b) GOJYO SHOULD KNOW THAT IT WASN'T EVEN A JOKE
that damn dual: c) NOT ONLY DID HE DO THAT, BUT HE ALSO BROUGHT UP THE GAME BEFORE
that damn dual: d) ON TOP OF THIS TIME
ornicocastle: ...
ornicocastle: see, none of this would have happened if Zexion would just learn how to laugh at himself
that damn dual: none of this would happen if Gojyo would realize that Zexion isn't a happy person and the only times he laughs are when he's enjoying someone else's suffering the best way he can because his life really sucks and there is no light in it and being made fun of is just ONE MORE PUNCH TO THE FACE OF THE TRAINWRECK THAT IS HIS NOT-LIFE
ornicocastle: ...
ornicocastle: because Gojyo's life is so great
that damn dual: obviously not
that damn dual: his life really sucks ;_;
that damn dual: BUT THERE IS LIGHT IN IT
that damn dual: somewhere
ornicocastle: there would be Light in Zexion's life
ornicocastle: IF HE WASN'T TOO BLIND TO SEE IT
that damn dual: ZEXION IS MADE OF DARKNESS, THERE CAN BE NO LIGHT
that damn dual: IT RUNS CONTRARY TO HIS VERY BEING
ornicocastle: or so he's decided
ornicocastle: Gojyo never worries about crap like that
ornicocastle: and tried to be his friend anyway :<
that damn dual: it's not crap, IT IS SUCKITUDE.
that damn dual: and there is no light!
that damn dual: kh canon says there is no light ;_;
that damn dual: it screws them all over ;_;
that damn dual: repeatedly ;_;
that damn dual: in every possible way except the only way that would be cool ;_;
that damn dual: IT'S LIKE SAIYUKI
that damn dual: EXCEPT RATED E
ornicocastle: ACCEPT GOJYO'S FRIENDSHIP
ornicocastle: HE IS LOYAL
ornicocastle: HE LIKES TO MAKE PEOPLE HAPPY
that damn dual: HE IS NOT MAKING ZEXION HAPPY
that damn dual: HE IS MAKING ZEXION STRESSED
that damn dual: AND MAKES HIM FEEL INADEQUATE
that damn dual: yes Zexion does the same to Gojyo, probably >_>
ornicocastle: ...welcome to Gojyo's entire life, basically
that damn dual: BUT ALL THE LOYALTY IN THE WORLD DOESN'T MATTER WHEN PEOPLE KEEP PICKING AT HIM AGAIN AND AGAIN
ornicocastle: to get back at Zexion for calling him an idiot
ornicocastle: repeatedly
that damn dual: Gojyo started it >{
that damn dual: LMFAO WE ARE TWELVE
ornicocastle: he so did not
ornicocastle: ...yup we are
ornicocastle: XDD
that damn dual: HE SO DID!!!!
that damn dual: (let's never tell anyone ever that we have these conversations)
ornicocastle: I want to see proof B|
ornicocastle: ...
ornicocastle: /tells everyone
that damn dual: NO
that damn dual: /WILL FIND PROOF >{
that damn dual: also BRB MOM'S CALLING
ornicocastle: ...oh wow, their first conversation was really nice .__.
ornicocastle: http://community.livejournal.com/mostly_ooc/132452.html?thread=9630564#t9630564
ornicocastle: Gojyo was just teasing
ornicocastle: Zexion started it
ornicocastle: ha!
that damn dual: HOW THE HELL DID ZEXION START THAT?
ornicocastle: Gojyo was teasing, and Zexion wasn't even too offended (or didn't seem like it - Gojyo would have backed off then)
ornicocastle: then suddenly! insulting everything about him.
that damn dual: LINK ME TO THE EXACT THREAD WHERE THIS STARTS
that damn dual: *COMMENT
ornicocastle: that's what I did
that damn dual: no, you linked me to the entire thread!
that damn dual: OH
that damn dual: WHAT THE FUCK
that damn dual: GOJYO WAS BEING MISOGYNISTIC!
that damn dual: HE WAS BEING RUDE!
that damn dual: ZEXION PICKS UP ON THOSE SORTS OF THINGS
that damn dual: OF COURSE HE WOULD RESPOND!
ornicocastle: ...Gojyo didn't realise that Zexion was offended
ornicocastle: the polite thing to do would be to tell him to stop :|
that damn dual: he told him that he was being rude
that damn dual: and Gojyo said "So?"
ornicocastle: because Gojyo didn't see it
ornicocastle: what's wrong with complimenting someone's tits
ornicocastle: plus, he wasn't insulting Zexion
that damn dual: a) if Gojyo didn't see it, he should have said "How?" and not "So?"
ornicocastle: WHICH WAS THE POINT
that damn dual: "so" implies that he knows and doesn't care
ornicocastle: he knows a lot of people find it rude :|
ornicocastle: also, Zexion comes off as so rude to him, it just seemed funny
that damn dual: if he knows people find it rude, then he should realize that it is rude
that damn dual: which is where the "So" comes in
that damn dual: because that's a tacit acknowledgment
ornicocastle: ...since when does he worry about what most people think?
ornicocastle: if he agreed with what most people thinks, he'd consider himself bad luck and unworthy to live
ornicocastle: ...which he kinda does BUT THAT'S BESIDES THE POINT
ornicocastle: the point is
ornicocastle: Zexion started pushing
ornicocastle: ha
ornicocastle: Gojyo did not insult Zexion first
that damn dual: Gojyo was rude first
that damn dual: that is an invitation to insult!
ornicocastle: ...yeah, Zexion started it
that damn dual: no, Gojyo did :|
ornicocastle: one little comment wasn't worth that
ornicocastle: one little comment, and Zexion is saying he has no admirable traits?
that damn dual: little comments are important----okay, maybe that went a bit far
ornicocastle: and keeps it going for ages after
ornicocastle: ...see?
ornicocastle: I love winning
that damn dual: >{
ornicocastle: :3
ornicocastle: ...I am so telling people about this
that damn dual: Gojyo was a jerk first >{
ornicocastle: zexion started pushing
ornicocastle: and pushing
ornicocastle: and pushing
ornicocastle: after Gojyo had stopped being rude
that damn dual: He never stops being rude >{
that damn dual: He teased the first time they talked, too >_>
ornicocastle: ...teasing doesn't count
that damn dual: teasing totally counts
ornicocastle: it doesn't
ornicocastle: teasing isn't rude
ornicocastle: there's a difference between teasing and outright insulting everything about a person
that damn dual: ...................okay, I'll give you that >_>
that damn dual: BUT IT DIDN'T COME OUT OF NO WHERE
ornicocastle: it kinda did
ornicocastle: they were friendly-ish before that
that damn dual: friendly-ish
that damn dual: but Zexion doesn't like people poking at things like what he does or does not do with his dick
that damn dual: and then Gojyo acts implicitly misogynistic
that damn dual: and keeps doing that
that damn dual: and in Zexion's eyes he's just retaliating
that damn dual: YES HE WENT OVERBOARD
that damn dual: ....really overboard
that damn dual: way overboard
that damn dual: he's a bad person ;_;
that damn dual: and he should feel ashamed
that damn dual: .......BUT IT DOESN'T COME OUT OF NO WHERE
that damn dual: not to him, anyway
ornicocastle: I am just laughing
ornicocastle: at your pathetic attempt to defend him
that damn dual: OI OI OI
ornicocastle: it's really not working
ornicocastle: just admit I won already
that damn dual: NEVER!!!!!!!!!
that damn dual: .......never ;_;
that damn dual: /IS RESOLUTE
that damn dual: /stands on a shaky base
that damn dual: /but STANDS ANYWAY
ornicocastle: .../places a single finger against your chest
ornicocastle: /gentle push
that damn dual: /HOLDS ON!!!
ornicocastle: /push
that damn dual: /GRABS FINGER
ornicocastle: .../trips
that damn dual: /STILL HOLDING ONTO FINGER
ornicocastle: .../throws down, then
that damn dual: /YOU WILL NEVER MAKE ME LET GO OF THIS FINGER
ornicocastle: /pries off
that damn dual: /HAS SUPERGLUED
ornicocastle: /cuts finger off
that damn dual: ....w-whoa
that damn dual: :|
ornicocastle: /grows new one
that damn dual: NO YOU BITCH YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED
ornicocastle: too late
that damn dual: ihu
that damn dual: anyway you know what i just realized
that damn dual: they've both been dicks to each other
that damn dual: but it's only the last thread where they were monster huge dicks
that damn dual: terrible huge dicks
that damn dual: ...well, they were also big dicks when they went out to the teashop
that damn dual: and zexion tossed a book at him
ornicocastle: ...and Zexion was a huge dick when he insulted everything about Gojyo
ornicocastle: it's just that they don't usually get violent
that damn dual: YEAH SHUT UP, THEY'RE BOTH DICKS
that damn dual: no, they don't usually get violent
that damn dual: because someone needs to be a HUGE DICK to make Zexion get violent
that damn dual: (p.s. gojyo is a huge dick)
ornicocastle: Gojyo usually does get violent
ornicocastle: he has to like someone to try and hold back
that damn dual: >{
that damn dual: Zexion doesn't like violence
that damn dual: WHEN ZEXION STARTS HITTING THINGS OR THROWING THINGS
ornicocastle: ...Zexion started the violence, too
ornicocastle: btw
that damn dual: IT'S BECAUSE HE IS AT HIS ROPE'S END.
that damn dual: ROPE'S END.
that damn dual: HIS ROPE'S END.
ornicocastle: ...all Gojyo did was bring up Genkaku
ornicocastle: he didn't know it was a sore topic!
that damn dual: ...how did he not know it was a sore topic
that damn dual: he'd had the conversation with Genkaku
ornicocastle: no, he hadn't
ornicocastle: not yet
ornicocastle: that was after
that damn dual: ...oh yeah
that damn dual: still >{
that damn dual: Zexion told him to stop
ornicocastle: and also insulted him
that damn dual: it was a sore topic >_>
ornicocastle: ...he could've just said that
ornicocastle: and left out the insults
that damn dual: no, that would be ooc
that damn dual: .....he's a dick
ornicocastle: ...yup
ornicocastle: and he started everything
that damn dual: NUH UH
that damn dual: HE TOLD HIM TO STOP >{
ornicocastle: also, Gojyo even implied that he might actually give a shit about Zexion :<
that damn dual: ......I need to reread this
that damn dual: wasn't there a mixup there?
that damn dual: like....
that damn dual: wait, did he imply it?
that damn dual: I thought that.....he said something, but then Zexion was like "obviously you don't"
that damn dual: and Gojyo was just like yeah whatever.....
that damn dual: ...../rereads
ornicocastle: XDD
that damn dual: it was on the dragon post, right?
ornicocastle: just go to Gojyo's journal
ornicocastle: I linked back to the thread from there
that damn dual: kk
that damn dual: why was zexion wary around gojyo again?
that damn dual: at the beginning?
ornicocastle: ...Gojyo had said he'd come over to... do something. idk.
ornicocastle: and then didn't
that damn dual: ........huh
that damn dual: /can't remember
ornicocastle: Gojyo was being an ass >.<
ornicocastle: >.>*
that damn dual: DAMN STRAIGHT HE WAS
that damn dual: /tiny victory ;_;
ornicocastle: XDD
[...]
ornicocastle: /still basking in the victory
that damn dual: yeah you know what you're a dick, and i reread the entire of the last post and any way you look at it, gojyo was at least twice as much of a dick
that damn dual: *entire last post. or *the entirety of the last post.
ornicocastle: pfft, all he did was laugh
ornicocastle: Zexion tried to call him an idiot
that damn dual: WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO POINT OUT EVERY WAY HE WAS A BIGGER DICK?
ornicocastle: yes
that damn dual: 1) "who gives a shit" is definitely combative
that damn dual: it's pretty much saying THIS HOLD THING IS STUPID AND YOU ARE STUPID FOR DOING IT
that damn dual: and zexion doesn't even get riled! he responds politely! no insults to gojyo's intelligence!
ornicocastle: ...but that's not what he meant by it
ornicocastle: HE JUST MEANT
ornicocastle: "I have nothing to say to this post, but I want to talk to you anyway, so I'll just say this."
that damn dual: yeah, if he wanted to say that, he could have said that, and not WHO GIVES A SHIT.
ornicocastle: BUT HE WAS DEFENDING HIMSELF
ornicocastle: AGAINST FUTURE INSULTS TO HIS INTELLIGENCE
that damn dual: HOW THE HELL IS THAT DEFENDING HIMSELF
ornicocastle: which came, btw
that damn dual: HE WAS IMPLYING THAT THE ENTIRE THING WAS STUPID
that damn dual: THAT IS COMBATIVE, AND A DICKISH MOVE
that damn dual: THAT WAS DICK MOVE ONE
that damn dual: DICK MOVE TWO:
that damn dual: 2) "C'mon, come up with something more interesting."
that damn dual: which again implies that the entire thing was stupid, and that zexion was stupid for doing it
ornicocastle: "I WANT TO TALK TO YOU BUT I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS 'CAUSE YOU'LL MAKE FUN OF ME."
ornicocastle: c'mon, it's obvious what he meant
that damn dual: Every time (before they started hitting each other) Zexion called Gojyo an idiot, it was because he uses idiot as something almost like a petname.
that damn dual: c'mon, it's obvious what he meant
ornicocastle: ...
ornicocastle: yeah, that's not what he meant when he linked to that thing
ornicocastle: besides, all Gojyo did was manage to click the button
that damn dual: linking that thing was to get Gojyo to stop making fun of him.
that damn dual: a) it was a defensive tactic, and b) it was his own way of teasing
that damn dual: C'MON, IT'S OBVIOUS WHAT HE MEANT.
ornicocastle: ...
that damn dual: -_-
ornicocastle: you know
ornicocastle: I just realised
ornicocastle: they fail communication :|
that damn dual: yes
ornicocastle: why would he ever expect Gojyo to catch up on anything not completely blatant
ornicocastle: ...and even then!
ornicocastle: I mean :|
that damn dual: why would Gojyo ever expect Zexion to take an INSULT as "i want to talk to you but not about this"
that damn dual: a) it's an insult
that damn dual: and b) if he wanted to talk, he could call
ornicocastle: ...but there was a convenient post
that damn dual: to which he responded with an insult
that damn dual: and phones are just as convenient
that damn dual: and they don't necessitate insults
ornicocastle: not to someone not used to phones
that damn dual: he's used to Guides?
ornicocastle: by now, yes
that damn dual: it's exactly the same thing, except in a different package
that damn dual: the point remains
that damn dual: whatever the intent was
that damn dual: he was a dick
that damn dual: he was a dick twice over
ornicocastle: Zexion is always a dick :|
that damn dual: pulling pigtails is not going to make the little girl like you.
that damn dual: sorry, we're not discussing 'always' we're discussing this post
that damn dual: which i'm not done discussing
that damn dual: YOU ASKED FOR EVERY WAY
that damn dual: AND I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU EVERY WAY
ornicocastle: ...and basically all you have is the first two comments
ornicocastle: which was no worse than what he usually says
that damn dual: so far, all I've gone through are the first two comments
that damn dual: I still have about a hundred more
that damn dual: should I continue?
ornicocastle: go ahead
that damn dual: so far, we have
that damn dual: > Gojyo being a dick
that damn dual: > Zexion not being a dick
that damn dual: > Gojyo still being a dick
that damn dual: THEN Zexion sends him that link, which is pretty dickish
that damn dual: so we have Gojyo 2, Zexion 1
that damn dual: Gojyo's all I did it, Zexion calls him a liar, which I don't think is dickish, but I suppose you can argue that, so I'll give him a half point
that damn dual: Gojyo 2, Zexion 1.5
that damn dual: "Just 'cause you can't pull it off doesn't mean I can't."
that damn dual: semi-dickish, so I'll give him a quarter point
that damn dual: Gojyo 2.25, Zexion 1.5
ornicocastle: ...no, that doesn't count
ornicocastle: it was just statement of fact
that damn dual: if I'm going to count Zexion calling him a liar, which gets HALF A POINT, then I'm going to count Gojyo pretty much saying "yeah, I'm better than you" which gets A QUARTER
ornicocastle: fine
that damn dual: blah blah blah etc etc Gojyo tells him he can come over, Zexion says fine, none of that is dickish enough to necessitate points
ornicocastle: and the next part Zexion brought upon himself
ornicocastle: no matter how you argue it
that damn dual: I'm not there yet
that damn dual: just you wait
that damn dual: I have plenty to say about it
ornicocastle: /goes to get food in the meantime :|
that damn dual: FINE
that damn dual: Zexion brings it upon himself, obviously
that damn dual: Gojyo is teasing a bit, but that's not yet dickish
that damn dual: He asks to get food, Zexion points him to the fridge
that damn dual: that's not dickish
that damn dual: neither of them are being dicks yet
that damn dual: Gojyo asks if he's managed it yet
that damn dual: Zexion says be quiet
that damn dual: none of that is dickish
that damn dual: then: It's a good way to keep idiots busy, though.
that damn dual: that's pretty damn dickish
ornicocastle: not really, though
that damn dual: yes, it is
ornicocastle: he's throwing Zexion's insult back in his face
that damn dual: the implication is VERY clear
ornicocastle: brought it on himself
that damn dual: I already factored in the insult into Zexion's dickpoints
ornicocastle: yeah, but that makes Gojyo's insults way less dickish
that damn dual: but this time Gojyo is saying it
that damn dual: and that gets him a dickpoint
that damn dual: nope
that damn dual: it does not
ornicocastle: yup
ornicocastle: it does
that damn dual: the fact that Zexion said it does not make the fact that Gojyo said it any less important
that damn dual: actually, it's even more dickish
that damn dual: because it's insult added to injury
that damn dual: it's a humiliation on top of that
that damn dual: so really, it deserves more than one dickpoint
that damn dual: but I am lenient, so I will give him just one.
ornicocastle: it deserves half a one, at most
ornicocastle: it is only repeating Zexion's words
that damn dual: it's not repeating Zexion's words, because Zexion never said that
ornicocastle: the only reason they are now insulting him instead of Gojyo is because the situation changed
ornicocastle: he implied it
that damn dual: He never said "it's a good way to keep idiot's busy"
ornicocastle: he didn't need to say it
ornicocastle: the implication was strong enough for even Gojyo to pick up on it
ornicocastle: ohgod I can't believe we're discussing this
that damn dual: yes, he implied it. but if Zexion throws a ball at Gojyo's face, and Gojyo throws it back, it's still a one to one ratio
that damn dual: SHUT UP
that damn dual: IT'S ONE TO FUCKING ONE.
that damn dual: GOJYO HAS 3.25 DICKPOINTS, AND ZEXION HAS 1.5
that damn dual: Zexion then turns the cucumber into a tentacle
that damn dual: that was a pretty dick move
that damn dual: so I'll give him 1.5 for that
ornicocastle: ...2
that damn dual: 1.5
ornicocastle: it was traumatising
that damn dual: because it was done in retaliation
ornicocastle: Gojyo's comment was not traumatising
that damn dual: if you're going to try to argue that Gojyo's insult is 'less' because it was retaliation
that damn dual: then I can argue the same for this
that damn dual: 1.5
ornicocastle: but you didn't listen to me for that
ornicocastle: so no
ornicocastle: either Gojyo's comment is less, too, or neither of them are
that damn dual: neither of them are.
ornicocastle: then it's 2
that damn dual: nope.
ornicocastle: for added trauma
ornicocastle: yup
that damn dual: every insult against zexion's intelligence is added trauma
that damn dual: you don't see my adding dickpoints there, do you?
ornicocastle: ...he is traumatised
ornicocastle: because the biggest idiot on the ship calls him an idiot
ornicocastle: right :|
that damn dual: he is traumatised because for someone as arrogant as he is, he's also always constantly been not-good-enough
ornicocastle: 1.75
that damn dual: 1.5
ornicocastle: 1.75
that damn dual: I am not budging on this.
ornicocastle: it'll even it out anyway
that damn dual: he gets 1.5
ornicocastle: I am not either
ornicocastle: 1.75
ornicocastle: he turned Gojyo off blowjobs forever
that damn dual: so did Gojyo
that damn dual: so it "evens out anyway"
that damn dual: so now Gojyo has 3.25, and Zexion has 3
ornicocastle: :|
ornicocastle: we'll just disagree on the point count
that damn dual: Zexion starts loling, which I figure gives him .5
that damn dual: so now Zexion is up on dickpoints
that damn dual: 3.25 - 3.5
that damn dual: Gojyo tosses it at Zexion's face
that damn dual: that should probably deserve a whole dickpoint, but the fact that Zexion did it to Gojyo lessens the blow, so we'll say .5
ornicocastle: ...pfft
ornicocastle: that is like .25
that damn dual: so 3.75-3.5
that damn dual: he threw a tentacle at Zexion's face
that damn dual: that deserves an entire dickpoint.
that damn dual: but it doesn't get one
that damn dual: because Zexion put him in the position in the first place
ornicocastle: you know, you're being biased
that damn dual: I AM BEING AS UNBIASED AS I CAN BE
ornicocastle: which is still biased
that damn dual: I AM GIVING THEM EACH DICKPOINTS
that damn dual: ZEXION WAS UP ON DICKPOINTS.
that damn dual: YOU ARE BEING BIASED.
ornicocastle: I am always unbiased
that damn dual: THROWING A SPIT COVERED TENTACLE AT A PERSON IS NOT .25 DICKPOINTS
that damn dual: .5 DICKPOINTS
that damn dual: 3.75-3.5
ornicocastle: ALL HE DID WAS GET IT AWAY FROM HIMSELF
ornicocastle: and try to shut Zexion up
that damn dual: he threw it at Zexion
ornicocastle: to shut him up
that damn dual: he could have tossed it away, and told Zexion to shut up
that damn dual: he didn't
that damn dual: he threw it at him
that damn dual: that's .5 dickpoints
that damn dual: then he tries to kick him
that damn dual: *does kick him
that damn dual: that's another .5
that damn dual: 4.25-3.5
ornicocastle: ...Zexion was still laughing
ornicocastle: he gets more for that
that damn dual: okay, I'll give him .5 then
that damn dual: 4.25-3.5
that damn dual: 4
that damn dual: 4.25-4
that damn dual: Zexion tosses a book at him
that damn dual: 4.25-4.5
that damn dual: Gojyo punches
that damn dual: it doesn't connect, so I'll only give him .25
that damn dual: 4.5-4.5
that damn dual: more arguing, but it's just rehashing old ground and it never quite strays into dickish territory, so they get no points
that damn dual: Gojyo pins him to the couch
that damn dual: that deserves a whole dickpoint, I think, because Gojyo knows that Zexion is not okay with touch at all at all at all
that damn dual: but I'll let you argue against that
that damn dual: ....i don't want to wait for you to come back :|
that damn dual: I'll give him half a point just to prevent further argument
that damn dual: so now we have 5-4.5
that damn dual: more arguing, but then it starts getting mean
that damn dual: "do you expect me to accept it every time" "do you expect me to accept your bullshit"
ornicocastle: I am back now btw
that damn dual: okay
that damn dual: I think that deserves .25 points, because a) Zexion was calling him out on being rude, which he was, but Gojyo was calling Zexion out for getting upset over Gojyo being rude
that damn dual: which is a bit :|-inducing
ornicocastle: ...it wasn't, though
ornicocastle: he was calling him out on all the insults to his intelligence
ornicocastle: and his arrogance
ornicocastle: and how he's expecting Gojyo to just accept that he's inferior
that damn dual: Zexion's never expected Gojyo to accept that he's inferior
that damn dual: because he doesn't even think that
that damn dual: He just wants him to stop pushing
ornicocastle: ...but Gojyo thinks he does
ornicocastle: so it wasn't really a dickish move on Gojyo's part, is all I'm arguing
that damn dual: alright, I'll give you that
that damn dual: if only because the next bit sort of takes it all away
that damn dual: "You're a fucking stuck up son of a bitch and you need to learn how to fucking laugh at yourself."
ornicocastle: ...which is true
that damn dual: which, again, implies that Zexion is stupid for getting "upset"
that damn dual: it's the last part, the "learn how to laugh at yourself"
that damn dual: because while he DOES need to learn how to laugh at himself
that damn dual: obviously
that damn dual: it's also saying that his reaction isn't legitimate
that damn dual: and that his disliking being made to feel like he's stupid from the VERY BEGINNING isn't legitimate
that damn dual: which is a dick move
ornicocastle: Gojyo doesn't think Zexion is capable of feeling like he's stupid >.>
that damn dual: and Zexion doesn't think that Gojyo thinks that Zexion thinks that he's inferior (this sentence makes sense I DOUBLE-CHECKED IT)
ornicocastle: (it does make senes)
that damn dual: there are issues of communication there, obviously, but at the same time, it's still saying that his entire reaction had no basis
ornicocastle: I'll give you that
that damn dual: okay, I'll give it .25
that damn dual: so 5.25-4.5
that damn dual: and then he shoves the tentacles into Zexion's mouth
that damn dual: I WON'T GO LOWER THAN .5 ON THIS.
ornicocastle: ...no, I agree >.>
that damn dual: OKAY.
that damn dual: .75? or do you want .5 I DON'T EVEN CARE ABOUT ARGUING ABOUT THIS ONE
ornicocastle: .5
that damn dual: okay
that damn dual: 5.75-4.5
that damn dual: Zexion knocks them off the couch. Would you count that as a dick move? If we count it as a dick move, we also need to count the entire fight (i.e. who throws punches, etc.)
ornicocastle: not really, he was just getting free
that damn dual: okay
that damn dual: and the entire fight is more.....fighting, and I don't think fighting is dick moves
that damn dual: ....except maybe for the bit where Gojyo kicks him while Zexion's down, but I will be willing to debate point value for that
ornicocastle: it wasn't really an actual kick
ornicocastle: he was holding back :|
that damn dual: it was still parting his legs to stand between them (TO HUMILIATE HIM!) and then kicking him while he was flat on the floor
ornicocastle: ...fine, give him half a dickpoint
that damn dual: okay
that damn dual: I won't count Gojyo laughing, then
ornicocastle: /o/
that damn dual: but wait, I don't think we're there yet
that damn dual: lalalala, let me go, gojyo laughsss
that damn dual: more fighting a bit, then it's apparently settled down
that damn dual: ...then Gojyo grabs the Guide and again starts clicking
that damn dual: that necessitates at least .25 dickpoints
that damn dual: you can't tell me he wasn't doing that to be a dick
ornicocastle: ...yeah, he was >.>
that damn dual: okay, 6-4.5
that damn dual: more fighting, lalalala
that damn dual: Zexion grabs Gojyo's hair
that damn dual: he doesn't KNOW that's a dickmove, but Gojyo has a thing with hair, just like Zexion has a thing with space
that damn dual: I gave Gojyo .5 for that one, so Zexion gets .5 too
that damn dual: 6-5
that damn dual: then kicking his legs apart to humiliate him further, which we decided was .5
that damn dual: so 6.5-5
ornicocastle: ...wait, didn't he only do that once?
ornicocastle: /goes to look
that damn dual: I didn't count it the first time
that damn dual: I saved it for later
that damn dual: because it happened later
ornicocastle: ahh
ornicocastle: okay
that damn dual: lalala, Gojyo only kicks him lightly, Zexion stays quiet, Gojyo says he's outta here, Zexion still stays quiet
that damn dual: then "Thought you'd put up more of a fight. Guess that proves how much of a little bitch you really are."
ornicocastle: ....>.>
that damn dual: THAT IS DICKISH, OKAY.
ornicocastle: yes, it is
that damn dual: .5?
ornicocastle: sure
that damn dual: 7-5
that damn dual: fighting fighting fighting
that damn dual: they finally back off
that damn dual: and it ends with "That's the last time you get to top."
that damn dual: I will give that .1
ornicocastle: ...pfft
ornicocastle: that is
that damn dual: because i think it's dickish, but Zexion probably didn't even get it
ornicocastle: pretty much admitting that Zexion won
ornicocastle: if anything, it's a nice thing to say
ornicocastle: ...hidden behind sexual innuendo >.>
that damn dual: LMFAO
that damn dual: alright, i won't count it
that damn dual: we still end with 7-5
that damn dual: even counting the ones we disputed
that damn dual: which I think added to .5?
ornicocastle: think so
that damn dual: Gojyo would still win with 1.5 dickpoints.
that damn dual: or lose, as it were.
that damn dual: In other words
that damn dual: Gojyo was the bigger dick.
ornicocastle: ...you know
ornicocastle: I think that's the first time he actually started insulting Zexion back
ornicocastle: aside from maybe one comment at the cafe
that damn dual: yeah, at the cafe Zexion was the bigger dick
that damn dual: Gojyo did hit a button!
that damn dual: But if he were at all capable of thinking entirely clearly when it comes to Genkaku, he should have explained clearly that it was a button that he didn't want pushed
ornicocastle: ...and Gojyo even implied he might give a shit
ornicocastle: so yes
ornicocastle: I think by this point, Gojyo'd just had enough of all the insults
ornicocastle: he hates when other people make him feel inferior. He does that well enough on his own. D:
that damn dual: ;_;
that damn dual: Zexion, for the most part, does mean the insults in the same way that Gojyo teases him about everything else
that damn dual: he's not rude to people he doesn't know well
that damn dual: he's really polite!
that damn dual: if he's rude to you, it's because a) he really really really doesn't like you, or b) he thinks you're alright, so he lets himself be a little lenient
ornicocastle: ...Gojyo doesn't know that
ornicocastle: and Zexion hit a button, though he didn't know it
ornicocastle: so
ornicocastle: crash course in communication?
that damn dual: impossible
that damn dual: they refuse to communicate enough to even have a crash course in communication
BE WARNED: IT IS LONG.
Relevant links are:
Gojyo and Zexion's second conversation: We pretend it's not in the ooc comm.
Their coffee shop date: It has dragons!
The fallout: Warning: contains dicks.
Appearance of a brother: They are being told off. :|
ornicocastle: ....Zexion has a weird idea of what polite is
that damn dual: he isn't swearing
that damn dual: that is polite
ornicocastle: pfft
ornicocastle: that is not polite
ornicocastle: he is the one insulting Gojyo
ornicocastle: notice how Gojyo isn't?
ornicocastle: ...well, wasn't
that damn dual: HE'S MAKING FUN OF HIM
that damn dual: AND HE DID BEFORE, TOO
ornicocastle: pfft, that doesn't count
that damn dual: YES IT DOES
ornicocastle: so not
ornicocastle: he was just pointing out Zexion's joke
ornicocastle: SO THAT ZEXION WOULDN'T SEEM RUDE
ornicocastle: SEE??
that damn dual: .....yeah, right
ornicocastle: it's how it worked :|
that damn dual: no
ornicocastle: yes
that damn dual: nope.
ornicocastle: Zexion is just too dumb to tell. :<
that damn dual: ...............................
that damn dual: YOU'RE NOT EVEN TRYING TO MAKE IT BELIEVABLE
that damn dual: a) IT WASN'T EVEN A JOKE
that damn dual: b) GOJYO SHOULD KNOW THAT IT WASN'T EVEN A JOKE
that damn dual: c) NOT ONLY DID HE DO THAT, BUT HE ALSO BROUGHT UP THE GAME BEFORE
that damn dual: d) ON TOP OF THIS TIME
ornicocastle: ...
ornicocastle: see, none of this would have happened if Zexion would just learn how to laugh at himself
that damn dual: none of this would happen if Gojyo would realize that Zexion isn't a happy person and the only times he laughs are when he's enjoying someone else's suffering the best way he can because his life really sucks and there is no light in it and being made fun of is just ONE MORE PUNCH TO THE FACE OF THE TRAINWRECK THAT IS HIS NOT-LIFE
ornicocastle: ...
ornicocastle: because Gojyo's life is so great
that damn dual: obviously not
that damn dual: his life really sucks ;_;
that damn dual: BUT THERE IS LIGHT IN IT
that damn dual: somewhere
ornicocastle: there would be Light in Zexion's life
ornicocastle: IF HE WASN'T TOO BLIND TO SEE IT
that damn dual: ZEXION IS MADE OF DARKNESS, THERE CAN BE NO LIGHT
that damn dual: IT RUNS CONTRARY TO HIS VERY BEING
ornicocastle: or so he's decided
ornicocastle: Gojyo never worries about crap like that
ornicocastle: and tried to be his friend anyway :<
that damn dual: it's not crap, IT IS SUCKITUDE.
that damn dual: and there is no light!
that damn dual: kh canon says there is no light ;_;
that damn dual: it screws them all over ;_;
that damn dual: repeatedly ;_;
that damn dual: in every possible way except the only way that would be cool ;_;
that damn dual: IT'S LIKE SAIYUKI
that damn dual: EXCEPT RATED E
ornicocastle: ACCEPT GOJYO'S FRIENDSHIP
ornicocastle: HE IS LOYAL
ornicocastle: HE LIKES TO MAKE PEOPLE HAPPY
that damn dual: HE IS NOT MAKING ZEXION HAPPY
that damn dual: HE IS MAKING ZEXION STRESSED
that damn dual: AND MAKES HIM FEEL INADEQUATE
that damn dual: yes Zexion does the same to Gojyo, probably >_>
ornicocastle: ...welcome to Gojyo's entire life, basically
that damn dual: BUT ALL THE LOYALTY IN THE WORLD DOESN'T MATTER WHEN PEOPLE KEEP PICKING AT HIM AGAIN AND AGAIN
ornicocastle: to get back at Zexion for calling him an idiot
ornicocastle: repeatedly
that damn dual: Gojyo started it >{
that damn dual: LMFAO WE ARE TWELVE
ornicocastle: he so did not
ornicocastle: ...yup we are
ornicocastle: XDD
that damn dual: HE SO DID!!!!
that damn dual: (let's never tell anyone ever that we have these conversations)
ornicocastle: I want to see proof B|
ornicocastle: ...
ornicocastle: /tells everyone
that damn dual: NO
that damn dual: /WILL FIND PROOF >{
that damn dual: also BRB MOM'S CALLING
ornicocastle: ...oh wow, their first conversation was really nice .__.
ornicocastle: http://community.livejournal.com/mostly_ooc/132452.html?thread=9630564#t9630564
ornicocastle: Gojyo was just teasing
ornicocastle: Zexion started it
ornicocastle: ha!
that damn dual: HOW THE HELL DID ZEXION START THAT?
ornicocastle: Gojyo was teasing, and Zexion wasn't even too offended (or didn't seem like it - Gojyo would have backed off then)
ornicocastle: then suddenly! insulting everything about him.
that damn dual: LINK ME TO THE EXACT THREAD WHERE THIS STARTS
that damn dual: *COMMENT
ornicocastle: that's what I did
that damn dual: no, you linked me to the entire thread!
that damn dual: OH
that damn dual: WHAT THE FUCK
that damn dual: GOJYO WAS BEING MISOGYNISTIC!
that damn dual: HE WAS BEING RUDE!
that damn dual: ZEXION PICKS UP ON THOSE SORTS OF THINGS
that damn dual: OF COURSE HE WOULD RESPOND!
ornicocastle: ...Gojyo didn't realise that Zexion was offended
ornicocastle: the polite thing to do would be to tell him to stop :|
that damn dual: he told him that he was being rude
that damn dual: and Gojyo said "So?"
ornicocastle: because Gojyo didn't see it
ornicocastle: what's wrong with complimenting someone's tits
ornicocastle: plus, he wasn't insulting Zexion
that damn dual: a) if Gojyo didn't see it, he should have said "How?" and not "So?"
ornicocastle: WHICH WAS THE POINT
that damn dual: "so" implies that he knows and doesn't care
ornicocastle: he knows a lot of people find it rude :|
ornicocastle: also, Zexion comes off as so rude to him, it just seemed funny
that damn dual: if he knows people find it rude, then he should realize that it is rude
that damn dual: which is where the "So" comes in
that damn dual: because that's a tacit acknowledgment
ornicocastle: ...since when does he worry about what most people think?
ornicocastle: if he agreed with what most people thinks, he'd consider himself bad luck and unworthy to live
ornicocastle: ...which he kinda does BUT THAT'S BESIDES THE POINT
ornicocastle: the point is
ornicocastle: Zexion started pushing
ornicocastle: ha
ornicocastle: Gojyo did not insult Zexion first
that damn dual: Gojyo was rude first
that damn dual: that is an invitation to insult!
ornicocastle: ...yeah, Zexion started it
that damn dual: no, Gojyo did :|
ornicocastle: one little comment wasn't worth that
ornicocastle: one little comment, and Zexion is saying he has no admirable traits?
that damn dual: little comments are important----okay, maybe that went a bit far
ornicocastle: and keeps it going for ages after
ornicocastle: ...see?
ornicocastle: I love winning
that damn dual: >{
ornicocastle: :3
ornicocastle: ...I am so telling people about this
that damn dual: Gojyo was a jerk first >{
ornicocastle: zexion started pushing
ornicocastle: and pushing
ornicocastle: and pushing
ornicocastle: after Gojyo had stopped being rude
that damn dual: He never stops being rude >{
that damn dual: He teased the first time they talked, too >_>
ornicocastle: ...teasing doesn't count
that damn dual: teasing totally counts
ornicocastle: it doesn't
ornicocastle: teasing isn't rude
ornicocastle: there's a difference between teasing and outright insulting everything about a person
that damn dual: ...................okay, I'll give you that >_>
that damn dual: BUT IT DIDN'T COME OUT OF NO WHERE
ornicocastle: it kinda did
ornicocastle: they were friendly-ish before that
that damn dual: friendly-ish
that damn dual: but Zexion doesn't like people poking at things like what he does or does not do with his dick
that damn dual: and then Gojyo acts implicitly misogynistic
that damn dual: and keeps doing that
that damn dual: and in Zexion's eyes he's just retaliating
that damn dual: YES HE WENT OVERBOARD
that damn dual: ....really overboard
that damn dual: way overboard
that damn dual: he's a bad person ;_;
that damn dual: and he should feel ashamed
that damn dual: .......BUT IT DOESN'T COME OUT OF NO WHERE
that damn dual: not to him, anyway
ornicocastle: I am just laughing
ornicocastle: at your pathetic attempt to defend him
that damn dual: OI OI OI
ornicocastle: it's really not working
ornicocastle: just admit I won already
that damn dual: NEVER!!!!!!!!!
that damn dual: .......never ;_;
that damn dual: /IS RESOLUTE
that damn dual: /stands on a shaky base
that damn dual: /but STANDS ANYWAY
ornicocastle: .../places a single finger against your chest
ornicocastle: /gentle push
that damn dual: /HOLDS ON!!!
ornicocastle: /push
that damn dual: /GRABS FINGER
ornicocastle: .../trips
that damn dual: /STILL HOLDING ONTO FINGER
ornicocastle: .../throws down, then
that damn dual: /YOU WILL NEVER MAKE ME LET GO OF THIS FINGER
ornicocastle: /pries off
that damn dual: /HAS SUPERGLUED
ornicocastle: /cuts finger off
that damn dual: ....w-whoa
that damn dual: :|
ornicocastle: /grows new one
that damn dual: NO YOU BITCH YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED
ornicocastle: too late
that damn dual: ihu
that damn dual: anyway you know what i just realized
that damn dual: they've both been dicks to each other
that damn dual: but it's only the last thread where they were monster huge dicks
that damn dual: terrible huge dicks
that damn dual: ...well, they were also big dicks when they went out to the teashop
that damn dual: and zexion tossed a book at him
ornicocastle: ...and Zexion was a huge dick when he insulted everything about Gojyo
ornicocastle: it's just that they don't usually get violent
that damn dual: YEAH SHUT UP, THEY'RE BOTH DICKS
that damn dual: no, they don't usually get violent
that damn dual: because someone needs to be a HUGE DICK to make Zexion get violent
that damn dual: (p.s. gojyo is a huge dick)
ornicocastle: Gojyo usually does get violent
ornicocastle: he has to like someone to try and hold back
that damn dual: >{
that damn dual: Zexion doesn't like violence
that damn dual: WHEN ZEXION STARTS HITTING THINGS OR THROWING THINGS
ornicocastle: ...Zexion started the violence, too
ornicocastle: btw
that damn dual: IT'S BECAUSE HE IS AT HIS ROPE'S END.
that damn dual: ROPE'S END.
that damn dual: HIS ROPE'S END.
ornicocastle: ...all Gojyo did was bring up Genkaku
ornicocastle: he didn't know it was a sore topic!
that damn dual: ...how did he not know it was a sore topic
that damn dual: he'd had the conversation with Genkaku
ornicocastle: no, he hadn't
ornicocastle: not yet
ornicocastle: that was after
that damn dual: ...oh yeah
that damn dual: still >{
that damn dual: Zexion told him to stop
ornicocastle: and also insulted him
that damn dual: it was a sore topic >_>
ornicocastle: ...he could've just said that
ornicocastle: and left out the insults
that damn dual: no, that would be ooc
that damn dual: .....he's a dick
ornicocastle: ...yup
ornicocastle: and he started everything
that damn dual: NUH UH
that damn dual: HE TOLD HIM TO STOP >{
ornicocastle: also, Gojyo even implied that he might actually give a shit about Zexion :<
that damn dual: ......I need to reread this
that damn dual: wasn't there a mixup there?
that damn dual: like....
that damn dual: wait, did he imply it?
that damn dual: I thought that.....he said something, but then Zexion was like "obviously you don't"
that damn dual: and Gojyo was just like yeah whatever.....
that damn dual: ...../rereads
ornicocastle: XDD
that damn dual: it was on the dragon post, right?
ornicocastle: just go to Gojyo's journal
ornicocastle: I linked back to the thread from there
that damn dual: kk
that damn dual: why was zexion wary around gojyo again?
that damn dual: at the beginning?
ornicocastle: ...Gojyo had said he'd come over to... do something. idk.
ornicocastle: and then didn't
that damn dual: ........huh
that damn dual: /can't remember
ornicocastle: Gojyo was being an ass >.<
ornicocastle: >.>*
that damn dual: DAMN STRAIGHT HE WAS
that damn dual: /tiny victory ;_;
ornicocastle: XDD
[...]
ornicocastle: /still basking in the victory
that damn dual: yeah you know what you're a dick, and i reread the entire of the last post and any way you look at it, gojyo was at least twice as much of a dick
that damn dual: *entire last post. or *the entirety of the last post.
ornicocastle: pfft, all he did was laugh
ornicocastle: Zexion tried to call him an idiot
that damn dual: WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO POINT OUT EVERY WAY HE WAS A BIGGER DICK?
ornicocastle: yes
that damn dual: 1) "who gives a shit" is definitely combative
that damn dual: it's pretty much saying THIS HOLD THING IS STUPID AND YOU ARE STUPID FOR DOING IT
that damn dual: and zexion doesn't even get riled! he responds politely! no insults to gojyo's intelligence!
ornicocastle: ...but that's not what he meant by it
ornicocastle: HE JUST MEANT
ornicocastle: "I have nothing to say to this post, but I want to talk to you anyway, so I'll just say this."
that damn dual: yeah, if he wanted to say that, he could have said that, and not WHO GIVES A SHIT.
ornicocastle: BUT HE WAS DEFENDING HIMSELF
ornicocastle: AGAINST FUTURE INSULTS TO HIS INTELLIGENCE
that damn dual: HOW THE HELL IS THAT DEFENDING HIMSELF
ornicocastle: which came, btw
that damn dual: HE WAS IMPLYING THAT THE ENTIRE THING WAS STUPID
that damn dual: THAT IS COMBATIVE, AND A DICKISH MOVE
that damn dual: THAT WAS DICK MOVE ONE
that damn dual: DICK MOVE TWO:
that damn dual: 2) "C'mon, come up with something more interesting."
that damn dual: which again implies that the entire thing was stupid, and that zexion was stupid for doing it
ornicocastle: "I WANT TO TALK TO YOU BUT I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS 'CAUSE YOU'LL MAKE FUN OF ME."
ornicocastle: c'mon, it's obvious what he meant
that damn dual: Every time (before they started hitting each other) Zexion called Gojyo an idiot, it was because he uses idiot as something almost like a petname.
that damn dual: c'mon, it's obvious what he meant
ornicocastle: ...
ornicocastle: yeah, that's not what he meant when he linked to that thing
ornicocastle: besides, all Gojyo did was manage to click the button
that damn dual: linking that thing was to get Gojyo to stop making fun of him.
that damn dual: a) it was a defensive tactic, and b) it was his own way of teasing
that damn dual: C'MON, IT'S OBVIOUS WHAT HE MEANT.
ornicocastle: ...
that damn dual: -_-
ornicocastle: you know
ornicocastle: I just realised
ornicocastle: they fail communication :|
that damn dual: yes
ornicocastle: why would he ever expect Gojyo to catch up on anything not completely blatant
ornicocastle: ...and even then!
ornicocastle: I mean :|
that damn dual: why would Gojyo ever expect Zexion to take an INSULT as "i want to talk to you but not about this"
that damn dual: a) it's an insult
that damn dual: and b) if he wanted to talk, he could call
ornicocastle: ...but there was a convenient post
that damn dual: to which he responded with an insult
that damn dual: and phones are just as convenient
that damn dual: and they don't necessitate insults
ornicocastle: not to someone not used to phones
that damn dual: he's used to Guides?
ornicocastle: by now, yes
that damn dual: it's exactly the same thing, except in a different package
that damn dual: the point remains
that damn dual: whatever the intent was
that damn dual: he was a dick
that damn dual: he was a dick twice over
ornicocastle: Zexion is always a dick :|
that damn dual: pulling pigtails is not going to make the little girl like you.
that damn dual: sorry, we're not discussing 'always' we're discussing this post
that damn dual: which i'm not done discussing
that damn dual: YOU ASKED FOR EVERY WAY
that damn dual: AND I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU EVERY WAY
ornicocastle: ...and basically all you have is the first two comments
ornicocastle: which was no worse than what he usually says
that damn dual: so far, all I've gone through are the first two comments
that damn dual: I still have about a hundred more
that damn dual: should I continue?
ornicocastle: go ahead
that damn dual: so far, we have
that damn dual: > Gojyo being a dick
that damn dual: > Zexion not being a dick
that damn dual: > Gojyo still being a dick
that damn dual: THEN Zexion sends him that link, which is pretty dickish
that damn dual: so we have Gojyo 2, Zexion 1
that damn dual: Gojyo's all I did it, Zexion calls him a liar, which I don't think is dickish, but I suppose you can argue that, so I'll give him a half point
that damn dual: Gojyo 2, Zexion 1.5
that damn dual: "Just 'cause you can't pull it off doesn't mean I can't."
that damn dual: semi-dickish, so I'll give him a quarter point
that damn dual: Gojyo 2.25, Zexion 1.5
ornicocastle: ...no, that doesn't count
ornicocastle: it was just statement of fact
that damn dual: if I'm going to count Zexion calling him a liar, which gets HALF A POINT, then I'm going to count Gojyo pretty much saying "yeah, I'm better than you" which gets A QUARTER
ornicocastle: fine
that damn dual: blah blah blah etc etc Gojyo tells him he can come over, Zexion says fine, none of that is dickish enough to necessitate points
ornicocastle: and the next part Zexion brought upon himself
ornicocastle: no matter how you argue it
that damn dual: I'm not there yet
that damn dual: just you wait
that damn dual: I have plenty to say about it
ornicocastle: /goes to get food in the meantime :|
that damn dual: FINE
that damn dual: Zexion brings it upon himself, obviously
that damn dual: Gojyo is teasing a bit, but that's not yet dickish
that damn dual: He asks to get food, Zexion points him to the fridge
that damn dual: that's not dickish
that damn dual: neither of them are being dicks yet
that damn dual: Gojyo asks if he's managed it yet
that damn dual: Zexion says be quiet
that damn dual: none of that is dickish
that damn dual: then: It's a good way to keep idiots busy, though.
that damn dual: that's pretty damn dickish
ornicocastle: not really, though
that damn dual: yes, it is
ornicocastle: he's throwing Zexion's insult back in his face
that damn dual: the implication is VERY clear
ornicocastle: brought it on himself
that damn dual: I already factored in the insult into Zexion's dickpoints
ornicocastle: yeah, but that makes Gojyo's insults way less dickish
that damn dual: but this time Gojyo is saying it
that damn dual: and that gets him a dickpoint
that damn dual: nope
that damn dual: it does not
ornicocastle: yup
ornicocastle: it does
that damn dual: the fact that Zexion said it does not make the fact that Gojyo said it any less important
that damn dual: actually, it's even more dickish
that damn dual: because it's insult added to injury
that damn dual: it's a humiliation on top of that
that damn dual: so really, it deserves more than one dickpoint
that damn dual: but I am lenient, so I will give him just one.
ornicocastle: it deserves half a one, at most
ornicocastle: it is only repeating Zexion's words
that damn dual: it's not repeating Zexion's words, because Zexion never said that
ornicocastle: the only reason they are now insulting him instead of Gojyo is because the situation changed
ornicocastle: he implied it
that damn dual: He never said "it's a good way to keep idiot's busy"
ornicocastle: he didn't need to say it
ornicocastle: the implication was strong enough for even Gojyo to pick up on it
ornicocastle: ohgod I can't believe we're discussing this
that damn dual: yes, he implied it. but if Zexion throws a ball at Gojyo's face, and Gojyo throws it back, it's still a one to one ratio
that damn dual: SHUT UP
that damn dual: IT'S ONE TO FUCKING ONE.
that damn dual: GOJYO HAS 3.25 DICKPOINTS, AND ZEXION HAS 1.5
that damn dual: Zexion then turns the cucumber into a tentacle
that damn dual: that was a pretty dick move
that damn dual: so I'll give him 1.5 for that
ornicocastle: ...2
that damn dual: 1.5
ornicocastle: it was traumatising
that damn dual: because it was done in retaliation
ornicocastle: Gojyo's comment was not traumatising
that damn dual: if you're going to try to argue that Gojyo's insult is 'less' because it was retaliation
that damn dual: then I can argue the same for this
that damn dual: 1.5
ornicocastle: but you didn't listen to me for that
ornicocastle: so no
ornicocastle: either Gojyo's comment is less, too, or neither of them are
that damn dual: neither of them are.
ornicocastle: then it's 2
that damn dual: nope.
ornicocastle: for added trauma
ornicocastle: yup
that damn dual: every insult against zexion's intelligence is added trauma
that damn dual: you don't see my adding dickpoints there, do you?
ornicocastle: ...he is traumatised
ornicocastle: because the biggest idiot on the ship calls him an idiot
ornicocastle: right :|
that damn dual: he is traumatised because for someone as arrogant as he is, he's also always constantly been not-good-enough
ornicocastle: 1.75
that damn dual: 1.5
ornicocastle: 1.75
that damn dual: I am not budging on this.
ornicocastle: it'll even it out anyway
that damn dual: he gets 1.5
ornicocastle: I am not either
ornicocastle: 1.75
ornicocastle: he turned Gojyo off blowjobs forever
that damn dual: so did Gojyo
that damn dual: so it "evens out anyway"
that damn dual: so now Gojyo has 3.25, and Zexion has 3
ornicocastle: :|
ornicocastle: we'll just disagree on the point count
that damn dual: Zexion starts loling, which I figure gives him .5
that damn dual: so now Zexion is up on dickpoints
that damn dual: 3.25 - 3.5
that damn dual: Gojyo tosses it at Zexion's face
that damn dual: that should probably deserve a whole dickpoint, but the fact that Zexion did it to Gojyo lessens the blow, so we'll say .5
ornicocastle: ...pfft
ornicocastle: that is like .25
that damn dual: so 3.75-3.5
that damn dual: he threw a tentacle at Zexion's face
that damn dual: that deserves an entire dickpoint.
that damn dual: but it doesn't get one
that damn dual: because Zexion put him in the position in the first place
ornicocastle: you know, you're being biased
that damn dual: I AM BEING AS UNBIASED AS I CAN BE
ornicocastle: which is still biased
that damn dual: I AM GIVING THEM EACH DICKPOINTS
that damn dual: ZEXION WAS UP ON DICKPOINTS.
that damn dual: YOU ARE BEING BIASED.
ornicocastle: I am always unbiased
that damn dual: THROWING A SPIT COVERED TENTACLE AT A PERSON IS NOT .25 DICKPOINTS
that damn dual: .5 DICKPOINTS
that damn dual: 3.75-3.5
ornicocastle: ALL HE DID WAS GET IT AWAY FROM HIMSELF
ornicocastle: and try to shut Zexion up
that damn dual: he threw it at Zexion
ornicocastle: to shut him up
that damn dual: he could have tossed it away, and told Zexion to shut up
that damn dual: he didn't
that damn dual: he threw it at him
that damn dual: that's .5 dickpoints
that damn dual: then he tries to kick him
that damn dual: *does kick him
that damn dual: that's another .5
that damn dual: 4.25-3.5
ornicocastle: ...Zexion was still laughing
ornicocastle: he gets more for that
that damn dual: okay, I'll give him .5 then
that damn dual: 4.25-3.5
that damn dual: 4
that damn dual: 4.25-4
that damn dual: Zexion tosses a book at him
that damn dual: 4.25-4.5
that damn dual: Gojyo punches
that damn dual: it doesn't connect, so I'll only give him .25
that damn dual: 4.5-4.5
that damn dual: more arguing, but it's just rehashing old ground and it never quite strays into dickish territory, so they get no points
that damn dual: Gojyo pins him to the couch
that damn dual: that deserves a whole dickpoint, I think, because Gojyo knows that Zexion is not okay with touch at all at all at all
that damn dual: but I'll let you argue against that
that damn dual: ....i don't want to wait for you to come back :|
that damn dual: I'll give him half a point just to prevent further argument
that damn dual: so now we have 5-4.5
that damn dual: more arguing, but then it starts getting mean
that damn dual: "do you expect me to accept it every time" "do you expect me to accept your bullshit"
ornicocastle: I am back now btw
that damn dual: okay
that damn dual: I think that deserves .25 points, because a) Zexion was calling him out on being rude, which he was, but Gojyo was calling Zexion out for getting upset over Gojyo being rude
that damn dual: which is a bit :|-inducing
ornicocastle: ...it wasn't, though
ornicocastle: he was calling him out on all the insults to his intelligence
ornicocastle: and his arrogance
ornicocastle: and how he's expecting Gojyo to just accept that he's inferior
that damn dual: Zexion's never expected Gojyo to accept that he's inferior
that damn dual: because he doesn't even think that
that damn dual: He just wants him to stop pushing
ornicocastle: ...but Gojyo thinks he does
ornicocastle: so it wasn't really a dickish move on Gojyo's part, is all I'm arguing
that damn dual: alright, I'll give you that
that damn dual: if only because the next bit sort of takes it all away
that damn dual: "You're a fucking stuck up son of a bitch and you need to learn how to fucking laugh at yourself."
ornicocastle: ...which is true
that damn dual: which, again, implies that Zexion is stupid for getting "upset"
that damn dual: it's the last part, the "learn how to laugh at yourself"
that damn dual: because while he DOES need to learn how to laugh at himself
that damn dual: obviously
that damn dual: it's also saying that his reaction isn't legitimate
that damn dual: and that his disliking being made to feel like he's stupid from the VERY BEGINNING isn't legitimate
that damn dual: which is a dick move
ornicocastle: Gojyo doesn't think Zexion is capable of feeling like he's stupid >.>
that damn dual: and Zexion doesn't think that Gojyo thinks that Zexion thinks that he's inferior (this sentence makes sense I DOUBLE-CHECKED IT)
ornicocastle: (it does make senes)
that damn dual: there are issues of communication there, obviously, but at the same time, it's still saying that his entire reaction had no basis
ornicocastle: I'll give you that
that damn dual: okay, I'll give it .25
that damn dual: so 5.25-4.5
that damn dual: and then he shoves the tentacles into Zexion's mouth
that damn dual: I WON'T GO LOWER THAN .5 ON THIS.
ornicocastle: ...no, I agree >.>
that damn dual: OKAY.
that damn dual: .75? or do you want .5 I DON'T EVEN CARE ABOUT ARGUING ABOUT THIS ONE
ornicocastle: .5
that damn dual: okay
that damn dual: 5.75-4.5
that damn dual: Zexion knocks them off the couch. Would you count that as a dick move? If we count it as a dick move, we also need to count the entire fight (i.e. who throws punches, etc.)
ornicocastle: not really, he was just getting free
that damn dual: okay
that damn dual: and the entire fight is more.....fighting, and I don't think fighting is dick moves
that damn dual: ....except maybe for the bit where Gojyo kicks him while Zexion's down, but I will be willing to debate point value for that
ornicocastle: it wasn't really an actual kick
ornicocastle: he was holding back :|
that damn dual: it was still parting his legs to stand between them (TO HUMILIATE HIM!) and then kicking him while he was flat on the floor
ornicocastle: ...fine, give him half a dickpoint
that damn dual: okay
that damn dual: I won't count Gojyo laughing, then
ornicocastle: /o/
that damn dual: but wait, I don't think we're there yet
that damn dual: lalalala, let me go, gojyo laughsss
that damn dual: more fighting a bit, then it's apparently settled down
that damn dual: ...then Gojyo grabs the Guide and again starts clicking
that damn dual: that necessitates at least .25 dickpoints
that damn dual: you can't tell me he wasn't doing that to be a dick
ornicocastle: ...yeah, he was >.>
that damn dual: okay, 6-4.5
that damn dual: more fighting, lalalala
that damn dual: Zexion grabs Gojyo's hair
that damn dual: he doesn't KNOW that's a dickmove, but Gojyo has a thing with hair, just like Zexion has a thing with space
that damn dual: I gave Gojyo .5 for that one, so Zexion gets .5 too
that damn dual: 6-5
that damn dual: then kicking his legs apart to humiliate him further, which we decided was .5
that damn dual: so 6.5-5
ornicocastle: ...wait, didn't he only do that once?
ornicocastle: /goes to look
that damn dual: I didn't count it the first time
that damn dual: I saved it for later
that damn dual: because it happened later
ornicocastle: ahh
ornicocastle: okay
that damn dual: lalala, Gojyo only kicks him lightly, Zexion stays quiet, Gojyo says he's outta here, Zexion still stays quiet
that damn dual: then "Thought you'd put up more of a fight. Guess that proves how much of a little bitch you really are."
ornicocastle: ....>.>
that damn dual: THAT IS DICKISH, OKAY.
ornicocastle: yes, it is
that damn dual: .5?
ornicocastle: sure
that damn dual: 7-5
that damn dual: fighting fighting fighting
that damn dual: they finally back off
that damn dual: and it ends with "That's the last time you get to top."
that damn dual: I will give that .1
ornicocastle: ...pfft
ornicocastle: that is
that damn dual: because i think it's dickish, but Zexion probably didn't even get it
ornicocastle: pretty much admitting that Zexion won
ornicocastle: if anything, it's a nice thing to say
ornicocastle: ...hidden behind sexual innuendo >.>
that damn dual: LMFAO
that damn dual: alright, i won't count it
that damn dual: we still end with 7-5
that damn dual: even counting the ones we disputed
that damn dual: which I think added to .5?
ornicocastle: think so
that damn dual: Gojyo would still win with 1.5 dickpoints.
that damn dual: or lose, as it were.
that damn dual: In other words
that damn dual: Gojyo was the bigger dick.
ornicocastle: ...you know
ornicocastle: I think that's the first time he actually started insulting Zexion back
ornicocastle: aside from maybe one comment at the cafe
that damn dual: yeah, at the cafe Zexion was the bigger dick
that damn dual: Gojyo did hit a button!
that damn dual: But if he were at all capable of thinking entirely clearly when it comes to Genkaku, he should have explained clearly that it was a button that he didn't want pushed
ornicocastle: ...and Gojyo even implied he might give a shit
ornicocastle: so yes
ornicocastle: I think by this point, Gojyo'd just had enough of all the insults
ornicocastle: he hates when other people make him feel inferior. He does that well enough on his own. D:
that damn dual: ;_;
that damn dual: Zexion, for the most part, does mean the insults in the same way that Gojyo teases him about everything else
that damn dual: he's not rude to people he doesn't know well
that damn dual: he's really polite!
that damn dual: if he's rude to you, it's because a) he really really really doesn't like you, or b) he thinks you're alright, so he lets himself be a little lenient
ornicocastle: ...Gojyo doesn't know that
ornicocastle: and Zexion hit a button, though he didn't know it
ornicocastle: so
ornicocastle: crash course in communication?
that damn dual: impossible
that damn dual: they refuse to communicate enough to even have a crash course in communication