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fourteenlines

Doctor Who 3.13, Last of the Time Lords

Jul 01, 2007 22:01

I am not actually squee-ful about this episode, but this is my only Ten icon.

Before I start, this post on 3.13 and series three in general made me appreciate it more fully. Mostly series three and not 3.13, because there was some really fantastic stuff in the previous 12 episodes. There was even some fantastic stuff in this one. Somewhere. ( Read more... )

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evil_hobittess July 2 2007, 06:16:37 UTC

Here, here! Like you, I enjoyed most of this episode (barring that unfortunate section of deus ex on crack) and while I was disappointed when it looked like Martha wouldn't be coming back, I was still cheering her on at doing what was best for herself and her family. Even if they were going to bring her back after Christmas it was good place to leave things. Give her time away from him to get over things and finish her exams. If her family hadn't needed her I think it would have been a harder decision to justify to herself so I was happy when they gave her that as well as the emotional ones ( ... )

fourteenlines July 2 2007, 07:27:38 UTC

I admit, for much of the series I've been worrying about Martha's exams. She's worked hard, she deserves to see the rewards.

And the fact that it was deus ex machina didn't bother me so much as the fact that it was logistically impossible as well as a stretch even for a SF/F fan.

iko July 2 2007, 06:41:55 UTC

Before I start, this post on 3.13 and series three in general made me appreciate it more fully.

I do not think I can thank you enough for this rec. It has made me think about my own essay I've been working on about faith throughout S3, because it's definitely jumped out at me in this season above the past seasons. Thank you, thank you.

First of all, the beginning was breathtaking.

It was! It has so much promise, although I was seriously in the "how the heck will they resolve ALL OF THIS in the next 50 minutes? How?" It just seemed way too much. But Simm is amazing.

The shot at the end of the Master's ring being retreived seems to back up my hypothesis.For me, the shot at the end of the Master's ring brings up the interesting possibilities of not just the Master, but of Lucy too. Then again, I really love the two of them together ( ... )

fourteenlines July 2 2007, 07:17:17 UTC

Oh my God, everyone should see Spaced. I dunno, maybe you have to love Simon Pegg.

I'm burned out on the god complex, to be honest, but I guess the idea itself wasn't so much what I had an issue with; it was the execution. I prefer my heroes "ordinary" rather than imbued with mystical power (one of the reasons I was never a huge fan of Buffy-the-girl, though I loved Buffy-the-show) and the floating was just. Too. Far.

Good call on Martha walking away without regret, as a contrast to "The Lazarus Experiment." I hadn't thought of that. And I can't take credit for finding that post; I just followed a link from my f-list.

iko July 2 2007, 07:33:18 UTC

Oh my God, everyone should see Spaced. I dunno, maybe you have to love Simon Pegg.

Here's the thing: I DO!
I loved his work on Shaun of the Dead and when I saw him in Who and heard him narrating Confidential, I knew that I needed to consume what he produced.

I dragged my husband to see Hot Fuzz and all I could do afterwards was gush about how outrageously hot and brilliant Simon Pegg was... and I can't believe that I still haven't seen anything but dribs and drabs of Spaced. I should bite the bullet and order the DVD from amazon.co.uk.

I can totally get being burned out by the god-complex. And yes, it was the execution that I really didn't like over the concept. Parts of me want to stick my fingers in my ears and pretend it never happens. I know that in future watchings, I will be skipping portions of this episode. Alas. That makes me sad.

stoplookingup July 2 2007, 11:00:28 UTC

I agree with much of what you say. I, too, am willing to hand-wave a lot of sci fi gobbledegook for the sake of a big payoff, and agree that this episode was asking way too much in the way of suspension of desbelief. I like your plot fixes -- though I'm not sure the countdown was the biggest problem with the "Martha preaches the Doctor's gospel" resolution, but your fix at least makes sense ( ... )

redheadedali July 2 2007, 16:42:48 UTC

I agree with pretty much everything you said. And I, too, love Spaced :).

samdonne July 2 2007, 18:44:07 UTC

He's spent all this time ignoring the way his companions feel about him because he doesn't want to get hurt when they inevitably leave him or die or get old, but that isn't good for him, either. As long as he views it that way, it means that every time he invites someone new into the TARDIS, the relationship (platonic or otherwise) is doomed from the start.See, I don't get that. If the guy can really see time and space and infinite possibilities, or however Nine phrased it, his frame of reference for relationships isn't ever, ever going to be the same as a human. And I don't see why he would have to make himself more human. Well, now, maybe, as a survival mechanism, because he's the last one of his kind. But it ain't going to happen overnight when he's got nine hundred years of patterns behind him. I don't care how shiny his companions are ( ... )