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foxymsmoxie

Doctor Who Thoughts.

Oct 05, 2011 02:04

I love Doctor Who. I've loved Doctor Who for years... but I have to say, I was looking forward to Moffat's take (I love Blink, Girl in the fireplace & Silence in the Library) & am terribly disappointed. I love love loooooved The Doctor's Wife (and while I might be forgetting an episode), I think that's the only one I adored.

( there be SPOILERS here )

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lunylucy October 5 2011, 19:07:53 UTC

While I like S5 a lot more, I still enjoyed this season. I think the disconnect in the River/Doctor relationship for the viewers often comes from the fact that they're rarely ever on the same page. When she meets him, he has no idea who she is and that frustrates her. When they get married, she's very young and frustrating for him (the more mature River wouldn't sacrifice the universe for him) so a proper loving relationship doesn't come across. I blame this on Moffat being a little too in love with the idea of this backwards love story and also on that we never get to see them interact a lot in that 'middle' period where they both know each other pretty well at the same time. As for the wedding, I read some pretty good meta that it's symbolic of River becoming an equal partner to the Doctor- she was refusing to follow along with the death scenario, so he had to tell her his plans instead of just having her do as she is told like a regular companion ( ... )

masakochan October 5 2011, 19:39:55 UTC

Speaking of River refusing to be a pawn, and her being the Doctor's equal- did you see this piece of meta? Even though it pretty much goes along with what you said. ^^

Yeah, seconding on Moffat being too in love with the idea. I think there was even some question about the Doctor and River's relationship- and he answered that "all great love stories usually end as tragedies"- or something along those lines.

lunylucy October 5 2011, 19:46:52 UTC

I hadn't seen that, thanks for the link! Brilliant point about River fooling the Silence by "staying" in jail.

foxymsmoxie October 6 2011, 21:55:10 UTC

I get that it's a backwards love story, but we don't see him fall for her at all. Sure, she's in love with him (and has been for a while, in this future time we don't get to see, yet), but the love story is forward for the Doctor. We've seen all of his encounters with River. There's nothing but awkwardness! It doesn't make sense that he'd marry her then. I'll have to read the meta. It's true about the companions, but I still think she's an asshole for deciding to end all of the universe for one guy (who wouldn't survive the ending of said universe).

Very interesting point about breaking out to see her parents! I hadn't noticed the lack of guards! Hooray! More freedom than I supposed :)

Meh. I disagree. Amy choose to travel with the Doctor, and with that comes danger. She wasn't abandoned in a hostile in environment, she walked in. Yes the circumstances were horrible. But she should've known they would always be looking for her. Someone who waits 2,000 years to make sure you are safe, isn't going to give up. Ever.

masakochan October 5 2011, 19:15:02 UTC

River being imprisoned that long would be believable to those who wanted the Doctor dead. And her not wanting to kill him was her version of a Timelord Victorious moment, IMO. His dying was a fixed point- and he got it across that sometimes you can't just can't screw with time. Him teaching her that some time can't be rewritten could be seen as what leads her to telling Ten that sometimes time can't be rewritten even if you want to be really badly ( ... )