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tweelore March 6 2009, 00:44:27 UTC
harsh.

I thought it was ok if the mother's life was in danger and whatnot. I mean too-young, too many babies, incest-- this sounds like some kind of worst case scenario trifecta, I can't believe the reaction.

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jesusfreak84 March 6 2009, 02:53:58 UTC
The Excommunication is automatic from the 1983 Code of Canon Law. The Bishop didn't have to say a thing.

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crazy_dewmaster March 6 2009, 04:25:27 UTC
For my part, I've also checked the Catechism and it complements Janet's statement.

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sisterallie35 March 6 2009, 05:52:54 UTC
Oh, good ol' latæ sententiæ excommunications. It's funny when people deny those things as if they had control over whether or not it applies to them. Very funnyz and sad.

As a kinda non sequitur, I like it when certain groups like the RC "womyn prysts" actually write a snarkily polite press release in which they "reject" the excommunication as if it were something they could freely reject. Oye vey.

But yeah, the only conditions in which abortion would be "permissible" would be in the case that the mother's life was in imminent danger. Of course, then we have saints like Saint Gianna who make the sacrifice but yeah.

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dingoesquire March 7 2009, 00:43:17 UTC
A couple of things that both "sides" should probably keep in mind.

1) The abortion may have actually been ordered by the court (which is why there was automatic excommunication)
2) The girl's life was considered in danger (which is why it may have been morally permissible, had it been a decision left up to the girl)

And I'm left wondering why the outrage is at the Church... and not the failure of this girls parents to protect their child.

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perla_diautunno March 16 2009, 14:18:22 UTC
I'd have to agree with you on that, Ben; the mom should be questioned (and maybe have the children taken away from her) for not noticing for three years the harm done to her kid - irregardless of this whole excommunication argument, that little girl, whether she would have lived or died from the pregnancy, is forever scared.

The step-dad should be castrated.

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