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Oct 28, 2007 12:04

Does this conscious "self-creation" stuf have anything to do with my Transformation?

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bettywithin October 28 2007, 20:34:46 UTC
I'm not sure I'm familiar with the notion of conscious self-creation that you're referring to, and I don't know the nature of your Transformation. Can you expound on these a bit, or point us to a resource? It certainly sounds plausible, I'd just need to learn more to offer an intelligent opinion.

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onehalfwhole October 28 2007, 23:57:53 UTC
Oh. I guess I read the conscious self-creation thing wrong. Do you know about the book called "Dream Language" by Robert J. Hoss, MS? It's got some very good information that seems to also talk about waking life, as well. This is more "freedomofbeing" than it is "Conscious Self-Creation", right?

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bettywithin October 29 2007, 00:43:04 UTC
No, you didn't read anything wrong, I'm just showing my inexperience in this area. The group description indeed says what it says; I think "freedom of being" was perhaps effrenata's conception of what conscious self-creation is predicated on. As she said in the profile, "From the pro-Self Creation point of view, Freedom of Being is the first and most essential of all freedoms, as well as the ultimate freedom." I really don't know much about it; that is to say, I haven't read much of any existing material on the subject. But I'm generally familiar with a lot of the concepts surrounding it. It almost seems an equal blend of chaos magick and internal psychology.

I supposed I'd really like to know more about your Transformation though, and what it means for you on a personal level.

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onehalfwhole November 14 2007, 15:09:30 UTC
He has come to this body as halves. I don't know why he did, but he shouldn't have tried to live in this body as his half. My body isn't capable of
his power, or almost anything about him. Please don't make me "spell it out" right now. I hope he helps me understand all of this.

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stupidcoyote October 29 2007, 15:34:42 UTC
I am not really sure of effrenata’s intentions with this community…
OR of your desires in asking this question…

If I do not answered your questions or addressed your desires below, then I would ask that you rephrase your question in a fresh post to this community with more detail to it…

Otherwise… I think I can say (at least for myself)…

conscious "self-creation" IS Transformation

As you intentionally make decisions which will change who you are and how you think about things…

isn’t that the same as saying…

As you transform who you are and how you think about things…

To me, self creation is another way to looking at and go about transforming yourself.

So… is this what you were looking for? Does this even come close to answering your question?

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onehalfwhole October 30 2007, 06:06:28 UTC
Sort of. But it's the distant part of me that my Transformation is going to make me become, but as a whole.

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stupidcoyote October 30 2007, 13:28:35 UTC
I am sorry, there r not enough words in ur comments for me to be sure I understand them.

Please feel free to elaborate if u would like more of my thoughts.

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onehalfwhole December 19 2007, 03:16:53 UTC
Do you read my journal?

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