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fromredtowhite

I guess this is some more insight into me?...its late

Nov 22, 2006 02:21

I don't think I want to go into ministry.....I know I want to study theology but man...I look at Christianity today and know what it could be and can't stand the thought of me preaching ( Read more... )

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burmy32 November 22 2006, 16:43:56 UTC

here's my problem with "christianity" today, especially what i have found (no offense to anyone) in non-denominational churches. all they want to preach is the gospel. i feel like it is becoming some free loving thing that is always so much fun etc. or at least that's the way it is being presented. and unfortunately, there is law. and law that needs to be talked about. it's not one huge love fest all the time. and while i agree preaching about that is also important, i almost think it is the easy way out.

*don't know if that really had to do with what you were writing, but it was the first thing that popped into my hear! = )

fromredtowhite November 22 2006, 19:48:28 UTC

your right they should be talking about the law...but not the way most of us view it ( ... )

burmy32 November 23 2006, 02:49:12 UTC

i personally think that the reason we see so many people who "believe in god but don't live a life pleasing to him" is because of the free love approach. we don't emphasize the fact that guess what, we are sinners. sinners that really do deserve hell. by just teaching that jesus loves you, many people do not feel the need to change their lifestyle. there is a difference between judging people who do something "bad" and letting them know that it why it is wrong and against god's word ( ... )

fromredtowhite November 23 2006, 04:38:36 UTC

Key word there being sometimes. First off all what good is knowing we are going against God's word without knowing why that is a bad thing...knowing that it is a God who went to the limits forus.

and the gosple message does have hell in it, the gosple is we deserve hell but Jesus saved us...but people who do what you say you want to do, screw it up and forget the whole Jesus saved us part.

I just think the "grandpa God" is the lesser of two evils and the only "affective" church has a healthy balance. It is a hard task to be a pastor they have to know when it is appropriate to talk about hell and how to actually say that so we can't come down to hard on people who are too hard or too light as we see it.

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ZOOM. _candycunt December 2 2006, 05:01:28 UTC

time for a nietzche-ism!

"Apart from the ascetic ideal, man, the human animal, had no meaning so far. His existence on earth contained no goal; "why man at all?"--was a question without an answer; the will for man and earth are lacking; behind every great human destiny there sounded as a refrain a yet greater 'in vain!' This is precisely what an ascetic ideal means: that something was lacking, that man was surrounded by a fearful void--he did not know how to justify, to account for, to affirm himself; he suffered from the problem of his meaning. He also suffered otherwise, he was in the main a sickly animal: but his problem was not suffering itself, but that there was no answer to the crying question, 'why do i suffer?'"

Re: ZOOM. fromredtowhite December 2 2006, 06:03:41 UTC

here is where Nietzsche breaks down for me...although alot of his philosophies have a good point and I actually agree with a lot of it (on mostly a theoretical level ( ... )

Re: ZOOM. _candycunt December 2 2006, 06:36:35 UTC

I cannot see a meaning in a bigger picture. But then, my beliefs are lightyears aside of yours. There is so much suffering "in vain!" that I can't see beyond the rot that is humanity a lot of the time. Suffering will always have a meaning to the one who hurts--one learns from it, grows, inspires.
The difference is, a lot of us don't learn from suffering, or grow. We say, "WHY ME?!?!?! GOD!!!" instead of trying to attempt change, and further the world.
Our suffering will never end, because we are human, but to end it at that is too fatalist to me.
I'm not really sure where I'm going with this anymore :( i had a point, i swear

Re: ZOOM. fromredtowhite December 2 2006, 07:19:58 UTC

but it isn't fatalist...we don't just suffer we take deep immeasurable pleasure in certain things...why do we take pleasure? why do we enjoy? why do we get happy? no one seems to ask those questions....but the answers are the same ( ... )