Disbelief: The Suspension Thereof

[funwithrage]

Disclaimer: This is a rant. Odds are it doesn't apply to you personally. If I hang out with you, it doesn't; if it did apply to you, I would not be hanging out with you. You can be pretty damn sure about that

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[funwithrage]

Thanks!

[joiedecombat]

Didn't you know? Fanservice is only acceptable when it's aimed at heterosexual men! Because any other kind makes That Guy feel uncomfortable.

Also, when you beat someone over the head with Boris Vallejo, I hope you either take video or warn me in enough time to get there to see it, because that sounds awesome.

[funwithrage]

God, seriously. (See also: half of the online responses to Bioware games. OH GOD SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE COULD CHOOSE TO HAVE SEX WITH THIS GUY AND THAT THREATENS MY MANHOOD. Haaaaaaaaaate.)

I totally will. For posterity!

*Also* also, need to find you on TOR once I finish ME2ing it up. I have a Jediprentice named Aerilya on your server now, I believe.

[joiedecombat]

Yes! I have all the characters ever on Begeron Colony, and we totally need to run around and have Jedi Shenanigans.

I will also be interested to hear your thoughts on ME2 when you have finished it.

[funwithrage]

Awesome! Message me? I keep typing your names from our previous exchange into the find-people thing, and it says you don't exist, so I think I'm having some kinda input issue.

Oh, I suspect I will have many thoughts. Just finished Tuchanka, where Mordin made me cry like a little girl. Also want some kind of mod where I can romance both Garrus and Thane, dammit. Choice is painful! Harem option! Also cookies!

And Samara is awesome. Seeing Samara's clothing options, and then running into some Internet guy being all "blah blah fictional werewolf isn't hairy enough", is what inspired the post above. Because really, That Guy, this is not the time to pull that shit.

If there is ever a time to pull that shit. Which: no.

[katkt]

You know, I'm so used to the depiction of women in fantasy (I blame Edgar Rice Burroughs), that I had to read your post three times before I successfully noticed that you said "male characters" and not "female charactes" at the beginning of the rant - and then it all made sense.

[funwithrage]

...yeah, that's kind of fantasy art for ya.

[cristovau]

I hope America takes on your wise new motto for confronting sexism, "Don't make me take out Boris Vallejo."

[funwithrage]

Hee! Best motto ever.

[funwithrage]

I wish you wouldn't, really: any given devil has plenty of genuine advocates without people I like jumping in for abstract thought-experiment purposes.

As for the argument...well, my immediate (and nineties inspired) reaction was "Sure, and monkeys *could* fly out of my ass."

Because: yes, it's *possible*. But, first of all, I doubt it: I've been in a number of arguments along these lines and that's...never seemed to be where the dude is coming from, let's say. Second, if that is the case, it's incumbent on those guys to make their stance clear.

I'm a busy girl, and my preferred form of charity is donations to the Red Cross, not bending over backwards to give random guys the benefit of the doubt.

[funwithrage]

It's what I do!

And yeah. It's less--at least on the surface--objecting to, er, objectification. Usually it takes the form of "Well, that's just not realistic!" or "Ha ha, he's not a real man," or whatever. Because saying straight out "I am uncomfortable with the sexual objectification of men in XYZ" is admitting that women have both sexual agency and physicality-based desires, which is kind of Kryptonite to That Guy.