I've realised a few things.

[galacticchick]

I don't want to be friends with people who think that this system is ok, that they 'know' what's going on when really they have no clue, who think that everything is above board, that governments are basically kosher and that the Powers that Be essentially have the public's best interests at heart. I can't be bothered with people who can't be

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[scwizard]

I've looked it up, and I don't see how US income tax law is invalid.

Federal law states that you have to pay your taxes or you face punishment. The constitution states that such federal laws are constitutional (as of 1913).

The federal government has written into law that federal reserve notes are legal tender. They can do this, because article 1 section 10 of the constitution prohibits the states from making "any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts." Because making paper money legal tender is a power prohibited to the states by the constitution, it doesn't fall under the restrictions of the tenth amendment

[galacticchick]

For a start, the constitution also stipulates that federal law only applies to the 10 square miles of Washington DC, and to any person who opts in as a 14th amendment citizen. It's not just about income tax; if you want out it's a much, much deeper hole that you fall into.

So if you want to know, dig deeper. The US doesn't exist, it's a federation colony of the English Crown. The 'federal laws' of the US can say whatever they like, it doesn't actually make it law *UNLESS YOU AGREE* that their laws apply to you. Which you will only do if you like being stabbed in the face a lot.

Google HJR 192. Then go to http://spiritualeconomicsnow.net and download the free ebook that is offered on that site. Don't think that because it's Canadian it's not relevant to the US, because both the US and Canada are still, to this day, part of the federated colonies of the Crown. So, essentially, if you know what you are looking at, you're looking at being a subject to British law. Which

[scwizard]

So your argument is that I don't have to pay tax because the federal law doesn't apply to me. The federal law doesn't apply to me because:
1. Federal law only applies within 10 square miles of DC
2. Federal law only applies me to if I agree that it applies to me

In theory, we can argue back and forth a lot on this, but in practice, I don't think there's ever been a judge who has said "federal law doesn't apply to the defendant."

If these are arguments that one could use to win a court case, why hasn't anyone won a court case with them yet?

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[stephenp]

Well you have two options if you want to escape national tax law:

1.