Unto the stone.

Sep 20, 2006 13:54

We were talking about honesty of motive in writing about something true. FiFi doesn't like to start sentences with "I". I offered the idea of something about oneself that started and ended with the word "you." It's deceptive, she said ( Read more... )

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applef September 21 2006, 03:01:48 UTC
Shat is still one of the best words ever.

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gaoldman September 25 2006, 09:06:59 UTC
Ha, its inclusion was a tribute to your glee over the initial use of it.

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cheung_maggie September 21 2006, 03:21:14 UTC
This is absolutely brilliant.

And I agree, passion should be a creative force in life but doesn't need to be big and loud. Just being able to spend some time with another person in real moments of mutual understanding and communication are enough to feel connected. Of course, humor is always good for that too.

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gaoldman September 25 2006, 09:08:26 UTC
It's blurt, really, but thank you.

I think most of my passion hinges on humour. I'm impossible to deal with if someone's not in the mood for it, though.

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misswainwright September 21 2006, 06:39:47 UTC
There are a lot of things I want to say to this post that I don't exactly feel comfortable saying in a public setting because there are too many eyes about, and I'm going to IM you the next time I see you with a proper response delivered direct. I will say here that I understand this with almost painful clarity, both sides of it. I'm a person who likes to be told when they are doing something wrong as well, and I do the same in return, but what I really want to talk about that I can't here is why sometimes, I've found it impossible to deliver that straightforward honesty that's so essential to good communication. So don't be scarce, yeah? We'll have another good long chat and cheer ourselves up after with talks of bagged rats.

Nice music, btw.

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gaoldman September 25 2006, 09:14:20 UTC
Since I wrote about this, I've been going back and forth on my conviction that it's reasonable. I'm sure it probably isn't, at this point. But it's still something I need. While I don't buy that someone else should be responsible for my actions, I do believe that someone should be responsible to alert me to transgressions of which I may not be aware.

We have yet to stick into it when we talk. Too busy laughing. No bad thing.

You like Gang of Four? They're legend.

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misswainwright September 25 2006, 16:16:32 UTC
I think it's reasonable to a certain extent; I really do. I think the precise point where the burden shifts from oneself to their partner is the point where it becomes clear that it's not the action itself that is particularly unacceptable, but the reaction to said action that is unusually negative. In other words, if someone cheats on their partner, I think it's fairly safe to assume that the cheated party will be angry. However, if someone says something that might, from an outside perspective, seem perfectly normal that the partner takes offense to, it's the partner's responsibility to express their distaste. This is such a fuzzy line though; it's subjective, and that's always hard to gauge ( ... )

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helenabc September 21 2006, 13:10:58 UTC
But what if someone hurts you and you want to tell them, but you choke? You don't want to make it an issue because you're not even sure it SHOULD be an issue. Or you don't want them to be pissed off for the rest of the day. Or week. or month.

That doesn't actually happen to me, because I'm small but fearless, but it might happen to someone. Like maybe someone I was with. Hem.

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gaoldman September 25 2006, 09:16:19 UTC
I think it must be exceedingly difficult for some people to say when they're hurt. Various reasons, of course, but a lot of it seems to be fear of rocking the boat. But as long as you have extraordinary balance, it's better to rock than fall overboard undetected. At least you can have help getting back in.

Small but fearless indeed. Sign on so I can try to scare you again.

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