Why are we surprised by this turnout?

[garote]

Do we blame this surprise on a "prestige" vote? On people being too mortified to speak their preference for Trump in public, and then going out and voting for him anyway? Or is there something else going on

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[sab123]

A great point. But there is more: people consciously filter out the information they don't like. This goes all the way from the press to the individual. Let me give you a few examples

[garote]

That's an interesting example with Bing's election page. One wonders if their editor was automatically considering the HRC-leaning polls to be "more accurate

[sab123]

What you say about WikiLeaks is true. However the documents published there can direct the attention of the legitimate inquiry. And AFAIK when asked directly, the DNC staffers confirmed that the documents weren't forged, and that's exactly what some media had done - checked and confirmed the facts directly (okay, some other media preferred to ignore any damaging information about "their gal" altogether). There also are the recently published candid videos shot at DNC and their subcontractors that fit together with the Wikileaks documents and go further. The strange part is that there is no general public outrage. Obama had so far about three Watergates worth of scandals, Clinton had at least two even before she was (not) elected. Yet their supporters are unwavering in their support. In the Nixon times, would everyone say "no, no, it's okay, he is our president and can do no wrong"? Obviously not. Why have things changed

[garote]

Um, no dude, the hearings are done, and so is the Attorney General. Loretta Lynch closed the investigation four months ago. It is not being re-opened. There is no need for it to be re-opened.

Your "trying to be objective" paragraphs contain a great number of distortions that I am not interested in going through with you, because you're clearly a grownup who can do your own fact-checking. That you bothered to assemble so many distortions in one place tells me something else: You are doing exactly what I described above. Combing your filter bubble for only what reinforces your feelings, and then passing that construct along. Welcome to the club: There are already millions, and millions, of members

[mommadona]

thanks for this post