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gasior

the two party political system...

Mar 04, 2007 18:20

is totally fucked, and too many people think that the only legitimate way to create change is by playing within the lines that were drawn almost 230 years ago. this is misguided, and i think fairly obvious. if it was possible to create change from within the system, i think that almost two and a half centuries of existance would have changed ( Read more... )

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beastmario March 5 2007, 03:45:48 UTC

I still don't think it's fair to say that if something hasn't happened in the last 230 years that it won't happen now. The world today is completely different in almost every regard to how it was 230 ago. Hell, the world today is ridiculously different than it was at the turn of the century 7 years ago. A amount of influence the internet has on every aspect of our life is crazy. In fact, it's such a new thing that I don't think we can fully comphrend the effects it will have on our society. However, the people who will determine the future are the ones who realize that the internet is where the key to the future lies. Think of how computers have affected the way we function at even the most fundamental levels and how that is affecting us as a culture. When that's taken into consideration, I don't think anything, including electing a third part candidate, is out of the question ( ... )

gasior March 5 2007, 04:55:31 UTC

news media in this country (at least news media that gets paid attention to) is for profit in this country. rupert murdoch, ted turner, and whoever happens to head disney (they own ABC). do you really think they're going to give airtime to someone who wants to tax the fuck out of them?

probably not. enough said.

omgitzcurtyb March 5 2007, 19:03:04 UTC

I proposed what I think is an improvement to our current system, Obama, and you provided your own, "spilling the blood of the ruling class." I am doing everything I can to make sure the change I want to see happens and I expect you to do the same. I really respect your opinion and actually agree with many of your points. But, we only have two years to work with and I don't think that the kind of change we need is possible in that time frame. I don't think that it is unreasonable to push for small amounts of change while gradually working towards the larger goal of a more equal society that truly represents the majority. But hey at least there's one thing we can always agree on, Manchester United.

omgitzcurtyb March 5 2007, 19:12:31 UTC

Also, I'm assuming you've already seen it and/or already know the information it provieds, but you might find the documentary The Weather Underground to be of interest.

omgitzcurtyb March 6 2007, 04:53:07 UTC

Also, I want to know what you think about there never being a successful Marxist state and how you feel about it being an impossible ideal. I mean, it relies upon the fact that no one wants power; I don't think this is possible for humans.

gasior March 6 2007, 07:20:35 UTC

While it's true that no nation state has achieved a communistic state in recent history, i think to discredit the whole school of thought is foolish. i imagine the examples you're thinking of would be the USSR and Cuba ( ... )

Interblog political respones gasior March 6 2007, 08:53:24 UTC

Dude, I completely agree with you about Marxism. I've maintained that no country has really made an effort to achieve Engel's vision, but rather used it as a pretense for gaining power. What you mention about Spain is really interesting, I'd love to read more about it.
And right again about the two-party system. When I wrote on Scott's blog I was really kidding, I hadn't even read your entry yet, it was really directed towards your anti-voting comments. And it's funny: I was just thinking the other day about how I should read some Noam Chomsky, and there you go and recommend it! And, if you do read my new comment on Scott's Friday entry, you'll see how we hold similar opinions of our current system. You can serve with me at 1600 PA Ave.

Benjamin Singer

omgitzcurtyb March 6 2007, 14:34:12 UTC

I have in fact read the Communist Manifesto. And I actually agree with many of its ideals because theorhetically Marxism is perfect, but in practice no one is able to use it in the manner it should be. I am not so much against the theory of Marxism as I believe that it will never be able to be implemented correctly, especially in the U.S. because of our society's need for power. If you could send me some links on Spain and Venezuela that would be great.

I'm really hoping that I'll be able to get the Manchester United game on this internet tv thing I have, it usually has most games.