Re: [Filtered from Russel and Fletcher]geekofthegateJuly 5 2009, 23:47:27 UTC
That possibility is one of the ones that crossed my mind. Or we could be in some sort of enormous, self-sustaining containment field, in a replica of Manhattan. It's impossible to be certain right now, really.
All I know is, we're a lot farther from our homes than most people thought. If this isn't the real Manhattan, then someone put a lot of effort into replicating it so perfectly that even the original residents haven't noticed the difference.
Re: [Filtered from Russel and Fletcher]geekofthegateJuly 6 2009, 00:09:55 UTC
Exactly. The main question we're faced with right now, as far as I can see, is whether or not we can figure out exactly what we are facing. It's obvious that our captors are interacting with us in some way, and we've found indications of them in this place...so there must be some way to find out the truth.
We should try and compile a list of all possible theories. There are a few that I'm...not fond of, but it wouldn't hurt to consider all possibilities.
I would say it's a 98% probability we are not truly in Manhattan. This has refined the possibilities for where we are, but unfortunately I'm no closer to finding solid evidence to support one theory over any other.
In any case, I would very much like a copy of the video.
I have concluded with near certainty that this is a construct of some kind, an artificial physical arena constructed by an unknown party that is, as far as we can tell, completely contained. It's possible, even highly probable that there's a weak point in the construction. However, finding that weak point will be very difficult unless we can deduce how and why this place was made. Either the function or the formation holds the key to unraveling the puzzle.
It would be convenient if you could please bring it to me. I am Near.
In the case that your theory is correct, that sounds like a good possibility to focus on. These are definitely the questions we have to focus on, though - the how and the why of this place.
Alright. Just give me an address and I'll bring you a copy as soon as it's made. Good to meet you, Near. Have you been here long?
This is totally bizarre...and you know that's a lot coming from me. A long time ago I learned never to say anything was 'impossible,' and I think this just proves it.
Daniel...do you think this could be some virtual reality? Remember how I told you about Veelox? When I first entered their VR program, Lifelight, I didn't even realize I was IN a virtual world. It was THAT real.
It is pretty bizarre, yes. I've got a very bad feeling in the pit of my stomach about all of this, I don't mind saying. Good philosophy, by the way.
....I'm afraid to consider that option, honestly. Because it seems so...possible. I've had my own share of very bad experiences with virtual realities. In fact, I really can't say I've had any GOOD experiences with virtual realities. [is holding it back well, but an observant person would be able to tell that he's remembering something very upsetting]
If this is the same...I at least hope the people are real. Everything feels so real, but...
[sigh] I'm sorry. To put it shortly, yes, that's a possibility, as far as I can see. We have to consider it with all of our other options.
You and me both. I mean, this place wasn't good before, but this just seems to make things that much worse.
It's scary, yeah, but it IS a possibility. Which means we have to consider it along with everything else. If it IS a virtual reality, there has to be a way out.
[hesitates, because he IS an observant person] Are you okay?
...but what? You don't...you don't think everything is a construct do you? Even...us? [pauses, letting that sink again, he doesn't sound comfortable, he mutters the next part under his breath, probably hoping Daniel won't hear] Well, it wouldn't be the first time you learned things weren't real.
[silent for a moment before taking a breath] So, what do you think our other options are?
That's true. We have to consider all of our options.
I...yeah, I'm fine. Just...some bad memories.
[regrets saying that] No, that can't be right. I just...there were these things called Replicators once, and...
[half talking to himself now] No. They're dead. We got rid of those bugs. This can't be them. It can't.
...No. I can't accept that the people here are fake, too. I'm sorry, I shouldn't have said that. You're not fake, Bobby.
[regains composure a little. Forces himself to stop being emotional] Well, there ARE other options. I think we could very well be in some sort of contained enviorment...maybe the teleporting from one side of the island to the other is just a way to keep us from trying to break out.
Honestly, we could even be in space. There are a lot of possibilities that don't involve virtual realities. I'm kind of hoping for one of those, myself.
Yourself included? Do you think you and the regular citizens have been brainwashed?
...I wasn't here for the missing days events, so I can't really give an experienced opinion on that. It does seem suspicious that they could knock everyone out at once for an entire day or more.
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I think we should get a few of the leading people together to discuss possible what are the best theories for what's happened. You, of course, maybe Harry Dresden, the Doctor...people with different experiences. I've had a lot of experience with alternate and virtual realities, if we want to cover that theory. What do you think?
Not the real Manhattan? Then I wonder where we really are...
Do you think that this is perhaps some kind of alternate reality for the original inhabitants of this city that we have been pulled into? I understand such things are possible.
...That actually sounds like a very good theory. Perhaps the city was pulled into an alternate reality, and the effects are somehow extending into other realities. I'll keep that one in mind.
If you don't mind, I don't believe we've met. What is your name?
What of the original inhabitants of this city? Do you think they have perhaps been pulled from their reality just as we have and have simply not realised it?
My apologies. Perhaps I should have introduced myself before discussing my ideas. My name is Sephiroth. And yours?
It might be that the entire city has somehow become trapped in an alternate reality. I can't say I've ever heard of anything like that, but we shouldn't discount the possibility. Alternate realities aren't the most explored of sciences.
Daniel Jackson. Good to meet you, Sephiroth. And no need to apologize.
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All I know is, we're a lot farther from our homes than most people thought. If this isn't the real Manhattan, then someone put a lot of effort into replicating it so perfectly that even the original residents haven't noticed the difference.
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Yes, that much is clear. And they aren't going to answer any of our questions.
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We should try and compile a list of all possible theories. There are a few that I'm...not fond of, but it wouldn't hurt to consider all possibilities.
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In any case, I would very much like a copy of the video.
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I'll be burning a number of DVDs as soon as I can. Do you want to come by and pick one up, or should I bring it to you?
Daniel Jackson, by the way. I don't believe we've met.
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It would be convenient if you could please bring it to me. I am Near.
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Alright. Just give me an address and I'll bring you a copy as soon as it's made. Good to meet you, Near. Have you been here long?
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Daniel...do you think this could be some virtual reality? Remember how I told you about Veelox? When I first entered their VR program, Lifelight, I didn't even realize I was IN a virtual world. It was THAT real.
I'm starting to wonder if this could be the same.
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....I'm afraid to consider that option, honestly. Because it seems so...possible. I've had my own share of very bad experiences with virtual realities. In fact, I really can't say I've had any GOOD experiences with virtual realities. [is holding it back well, but an observant person would be able to tell that he's remembering something very upsetting]
If this is the same...I at least hope the people are real. Everything feels so real, but...
[sigh] I'm sorry. To put it shortly, yes, that's a possibility, as far as I can see. We have to consider it with all of our other options.
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It's scary, yeah, but it IS a possibility. Which means we have to consider it along with everything else. If it IS a virtual reality, there has to be a way out.
[hesitates, because he IS an observant person] Are you okay?
...but what? You don't...you don't think everything is a construct do you? Even...us? [pauses, letting that sink again, he doesn't sound comfortable, he mutters the next part under his breath, probably hoping Daniel won't hear] Well, it wouldn't be the first time you learned things weren't real.
[silent for a moment before taking a breath] So, what do you think our other options are?
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That's true. We have to consider all of our options.
I...yeah, I'm fine. Just...some bad memories.
[regrets saying that] No, that can't be right. I just...there were these things called Replicators once, and...
[half talking to himself now] No. They're dead. We got rid of those bugs. This can't be them. It can't.
...No. I can't accept that the people here are fake, too. I'm sorry, I shouldn't have said that. You're not fake, Bobby.
[regains composure a little. Forces himself to stop being emotional] Well, there ARE other options. I think we could very well be in some sort of contained enviorment...maybe the teleporting from one side of the island to the other is just a way to keep us from trying to break out.
Honestly, we could even be in space. There are a lot of possibilities that don't involve virtual realities. I'm kind of hoping for one of those, myself.
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But if this isn't the real Manhattan...then what is it? What about the people that were living here before the monster came?
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We have lost days. All of us have. Who knows what they do during those days. In any case, I'm not sure what to think anymore.
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...I wasn't here for the missing days events, so I can't really give an experienced opinion on that. It does seem suspicious that they could knock everyone out at once for an entire day or more.
[Private to Aya//Impossible to Hack]
I think we should get a few of the leading people together to discuss possible what are the best theories for what's happened. You, of course, maybe Harry Dresden, the Doctor...people with different experiences. I've had a lot of experience with alternate and virtual realities, if we want to cover that theory. What do you think?
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Do you think that this is perhaps some kind of alternate reality for the original inhabitants of this city that we have been pulled into? I understand such things are possible.
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If you don't mind, I don't believe we've met. What is your name?
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My apologies. Perhaps I should have introduced myself before discussing my ideas. My name is Sephiroth. And yours?
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Daniel Jackson. Good to meet you, Sephiroth. And no need to apologize.
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