Using my only Dumbledore icon for this.

Oct 20, 2007 00:38

To my friends list, which is going nuts about JKR outing Dumbledore:

I called this back in June of 2006 in Chapter 13 of HBP Spork. underlucius called it back in Chapter 4.

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octoberstorm October 20 2007, 05:11:46 UTC
Oh, I think even in the books it seems like it was an open secret, especially given Rita's innuendo. I just, I dunno. I can appreciate the fact she actually made someone gay, I just have mixed feelings about it.

And of course, more shit is sure to hit the fan:

The truth is, in my younger days, I dated Ron more than once,” she admitted, giving an inside look at why Hermione (the closest character to Rowling’s younger self) might be attracted to Harry’s best friend. “He’s fun to write, but not so much fun to date.” And once she had learned her lesson, Rowling said, “I married Harry Potter,” referring to her second husband, Neil Murray.

From here: http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1572399/20071019/story.jhtml I found the tagline very interesting. *facepalm*

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gehayi October 20 2007, 05:23:13 UTC
I don't really have any mixed feelings about it. To me, Dumbledore is the most asexual character in the world. And the fact that Dumbledore is allegedly gay--according to THIS interview, anyway; we'll see how long she remembers that--doesn't improve him or change him in any way.

Besides, I loathe Dumbledore's actions and personality with a passion.

Before, Dumbledore was an arrogant, self-righteous, manipulative son-of-a-bitch.

Now, it appears, he was an arrogant, self-righteous, manipulative son-of-a-bitch who happened to be gay.

A little alternative sexuality doesn't change who he is.

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octoberstorm October 20 2007, 05:26:56 UTC
Oh, him being gay doesn't really make me like him more. Prior to HBP I liked him in the same sort of way I enjoyed other ambiguous characters but after that he sort of lost his charm, if you can call it that - but a lot of that might be falling out of love with the series itself, I'm afraid.

I just have mixed feelings about the only confirmed gay character being, as you say, an arrogant, self-righteous manipulative son-of-a-bitch who fell in love with a bigot.

While almost everyone else either dies, pines for someone, is married or at least has an implied heterosexual love interest.

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gehayi October 20 2007, 05:40:58 UTC
I just have mixed feelings about the only confirmed gay character being, as you say, an arrogant, self-righteous manipulative son-of-a-bitch who fell in love with a bigot.

A son-of-a-bitch who advocated Muggle slavery and Muggle torture, mind you. And whose ideas became the basis for Grindelwald's campaign as Dark Lord. How is this supposed to be positive again?

While almost everyone else either dies, pines for someone, is married or at least has an implied heterosexual love interest.

You know, you're right.

Prior to HBP I liked him in the same sort of way I enjoyed other ambiguous characters but after that he sort of lost his charm, if you can call it that - but a lot of that might be falling out of love with the series itself, I'm afraid.

HBP killed my interest in the series. Deathly Hallows danced on its grave.

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redcoast October 20 2007, 05:48:15 UTC
And I said he was a pedophile! I lose.

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gehayi October 20 2007, 05:58:50 UTC
He does come across as being rather too interested in young Harry, doesn't he?

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redcoast October 20 2007, 06:02:22 UTC
To tell the truth, in the last couple of books, I have no idea what he was up to. He just seemed high all the time.

At least now fandom can commence making jokes about what he saw in the Mirror.

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erastes October 20 2007, 11:29:02 UTC
*gigglesnort*

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gehayi October 20 2007, 07:22:26 UTC
As to the Christian symbolism claims, I think that she wants to be considered a Serious Writer and not a marketing phenomenon. Hence the rather pretentious claims that she's always denied up till now ( ... )

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gehayi October 20 2007, 13:05:46 UTC
Christian quotes

*Shrug* To tell you the truth, I didn't even know that the lines on the graves were from the Bible until I looked them up. "For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also" is Luke 12:34; "The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death" is 1 Corinthians 15:26.

They weren't immediately recognizable to the man on the street as religious quotations. Certainly neither one referred to God or religion. And neither Harry nor Hermione knew the origin of the quotes. Indeed, I would suspect that most readers thought she made up something that sounded "quote-y."

the cultural-Christian atmosphere of Christmas and the like

Huh? You mean Christmas and Easter at Hogwarts? That's nothing symbolic; that's how English boarding schools used to divide the year--Christmas vacation and Easter vacation. Now I believe they call them winter and spring vacation. However, wizards are a bit slow and probably haven't caught up with that yet ( ... )

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smurasaki October 20 2007, 08:03:53 UTC
Gah! She's getting _more_ obnoxious and inconsistant.
I didn't think that was possible.

(And I so need a "boggled" icon.)

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erastes October 20 2007, 11:41:38 UTC
*laughs*

Yes, it's like the rabbit hole, isn't it?

Just when we think we've reached the bottom...

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