Salvia Divinorum

[genghishahn]

So I've been experimenting with Salvia Divinorum which is a hallucinagenic plant that has yet to be illegalized federally. It's of course only a matter of time given the Pharamaceutical companies can't monopolise it probably in a cost effective manner. But anyway, it's really nice. I never feel sick to my stomach the way weed makes me feel. It even

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[mortalterror]

When you told me about it, my first impulse was, "Well if it's legal, then maybe I'll try it some time." I stewed on this for a while and then I started wondering what exactly was in it, what part of the brain did it act on, did it act on any other parts of the body, and what the long term chemical effects could be. I decided at this point that even if I could score off of you for free and not get arrested by our noble glorious freedom police, I wouldn't want to put anything into my body if I didn't know exactly how it would effect me. Do you know any of that? On a personal note, lately, I've been mulling over how I should ween myself off of caffeine and sugar, because they're just not good for me, and I think they might be linked to my emotional problems. But good luck with all the hardcore psychedelic drugs. :)

[genghishahn]

From what I've read there doesn't seem to be any long lasting negative effects from this stuff aside from the fact that if you smoke it you are irritating your lungs. Of course I've never seen scientific proof of these claims as everyone who writes these things are Salvia advocates and users. Kinda like how someone who is against something will just straight up claim it's the worst thing in known history, they can't exactly be trusted. I know that it has been used in smaller quantities as an anti-depressant. But other than that I don't really know that much about this plant.

Setec Astronomy

[mortalterror]

Back in high school, Bob told me that smoking weed would help my asthma. I'd try to find some better sources.

Also, you've said it's legal, and I've read it's legal on one of those internet sites. But what is it's exact legal status? Is it okay to possess in small amounts, okay to grow, okay to sell, are there any applicable laws pertinent or tangential to this substance? Have there been any long term tests? Does it stay in your spine for the rest of your life like ecstasy or cause random flashbacks like LSD? At what level does overdose occur? Is there a history of people dying from taking this drug? There are just too many unanswered questions.

Re: Setec Astronomy

[genghishahn]

It is currently legal to use, own, and sell. There have been laws passed in a few states and countries illegalizing it. But nothing yet on the U.S. federal level or the Washington State level. It is currently on the DEA watch list as they are probably preparing to illegalize it. I have read that overdose is impossible, as has been said of Marijuana also. I know not of its long term affects.

[the_camper]

I liked that stuff, got any recommendations on where to get some? My roommate wants to go in on it with me. That Iamshaman site appears to no longer sell.

[genghishahn]

Bouncingbearbotanicals.com is a site recommended by IamShaman to get Salvia. They have pretty decent prices too. What you smoked with me was 10x Standardized Extract. You may want to try a little higher such as 15 or 20. But with 15 and 20 Standardized they only sell up to 3g at a time. If you want to get the relative bulk discount you may want to look into Non Standard and get a 10g pack. I've heard the quality isn't as 100% assured, but it still gets the job done nicely. Also, if you end up buying just straight foliage, it's very hard to smoke that stuff cuz you have to smoke a lot to get high. foliage is meant to be chewed in a quid.

[the_camper]

How many grams was in each of those pouches you had? 1?

And I'm thinking of getting some seeds and/or a plant at some point too, just in case...

[genghishahn]

the small bag i had was 1.1 grams. the larger bags were 3.1 grams. My small pipe holds approximately 1/15 of a gram or so. A larger pipe would probably hold about 1/10. So anyway, each of my larger pouches has approximately 45 uses for me. Pretty smooth given I paid only around 100 dollars for all 10 grams. Which equates to roughly 150 uses overall if I stick with my small pipe. Though I am considering getting one with a larger bowl for a stronger experience.

Also, I've read that this plant rarely propogates seeds so you have to look into a cutting from a plant. Next week I'm actually gonna hit up some greenhouses/nurseries to see if they have any plants or saplings or whatever cuz I'd rather not pay $35 dollar for one on Bouncing Bear if I can avoid it.