there is no parser that differentiates kicks from punches, that's why I wrote my own and had to wear boreas cesti during my tests and use the 100% enaero effect on punches from them (and 0% on kicks).
I guess I would be called a "Beginner monk" to be nice about it in accordance to many forums out there and their rants on gear and whatnot. Somewhat new to level 75 (after 3+ years of trying to level, a good deal solo until the mid 60's when party invites picked up.), only formless strikes and 2 hand to hand merits at the time of writing this
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It's a good question, and the thing is that there just isn't much data out there on base kick rate, and even numbers posted on the ffxi wiki are just based on rumors and guesswork (of the sort of: job trait kick attacks I is 5%, so probably kick attacks I+II is 10% total, by analogy to other traits like attack bonus or whatnot, without actual tests to back this up
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Ingame name: Skitso Server: Titan Job: only Monk lvl75.
I apologize in advance as I do not know how to message you without responding to one of your posts.
First off great work. I noticed that you use Boreas Cesti in your tests to distinguish between kicks and punches.
My question is unrelated to the parsing. Have you ever used Boreas Cesti against Earth elemental type mobs? I was planning on testing it's damage against Ouryu on the CoP mission 4-2. I have retaliators but was pondering testing the additional wind effect dmg since ouryu is very resistant to physical damage.
Do you have any comments/suggestions? I apologize again for posting this question here.
Re: Boreas CestigenomeffxiJuly 19 2007, 06:10:57 UTC
Hi, I have not tested it much in that context sorry. I think maybe a RDM would know better about the added effect damage and how it changes based on NMs elemental weaknesses. At low levels though the differences in damage rating of weapons is more significant though, so it might not be worth losing your damage on normal hits. It's usually only 2-3 wind dmg for me and I remember I hit ouryu pretty hard with my normal melee attacks, so you are probably much better off with high damage H2H, but it's fun to test things out too. I would be interested in finding out how you do however and if the added damage is any higher etc, I would suggest you bring both and just use boreas for a few hits, maybe after a ws so you don't waste TP, just one or two hits should be enough to get a sense for the added effect damage, so bring boreas along too to test them and please let me know.
Re: Boreas Cesti
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July 20 2007, 13:51:55 UTC
Hello, Skitso again.
Well the Boreas Cesti additional effect damage was miniscule (3-6dmg)on Ouryu, as you predicted. In addition, the normal dmg from the hits was on avg about 10 to 20 points lower from Retaliators damage. Thanks for your input. By the way, is it me or did I remember SE promising that all jobs would get updates way back... yet Monk hasn't gotten any and doesn't seem like we'll get any...?
Hi, I have been busy but I will try to update soon, maybe within a week.
I was thinking about making a post that explains how damage equations and stats relate in simple terms with a few diagrams and how to compare different stats in gear and weapons since a lot of people have trouble using them correctly, and that's a lot of work to do it well so I kept postponing it, but it's coming soon.
Yeah, this last update had even less for monk, I used up my stored 10 merits after my first login, in the only categories left and not already capped (guard etc), got the promotion and finished the mission within a few hours. I really wish they had added something like 100 more merits or something, that would have kept me busy and happier :P Let's hope the upcoming expansion has more of that too and not just new areas and missions.
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Server: Titan
Job: only Monk lvl75.
I apologize in advance as I do not know how to message you without responding to one of your posts.
First off great work. I noticed that you use Boreas Cesti in your tests to distinguish between kicks and punches.
My question is unrelated to the parsing. Have you ever used Boreas Cesti against Earth elemental type mobs? I was planning on testing it's damage against Ouryu on the CoP mission 4-2. I have retaliators but was pondering testing the additional wind effect dmg since ouryu is very resistant to physical damage.
Do you have any comments/suggestions? I apologize again for posting this question here.
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I think maybe a RDM would know better about the added effect damage and how it changes based on NMs elemental weaknesses.
At low levels though the differences in damage rating of weapons is more significant though, so it might not be worth losing your damage on normal hits. It's usually only 2-3 wind dmg for me and I remember I hit ouryu pretty hard with my normal melee attacks, so you are probably much better off with high damage H2H, but it's fun to test things out too.
I would be interested in finding out how you do however and if the added damage is any higher etc, I would suggest you bring both and just use boreas for a few hits, maybe after a ws so you don't waste TP, just one or two hits should be enough to get a sense for the added effect damage, so bring boreas along too to test them and please let me know.
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Well the Boreas Cesti additional effect damage was miniscule (3-6dmg)on Ouryu, as you predicted. In addition, the normal dmg from the hits was on avg about 10 to 20 points lower from Retaliators damage. Thanks for your input. By the way, is it me or did I remember SE promising that all jobs would get updates way back... yet Monk hasn't gotten any and doesn't seem like we'll get any...?
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I was thinking about making a post that explains how damage equations and stats relate in simple terms with a few diagrams and how to compare different stats in gear and weapons since a lot of people have trouble using them correctly, and that's a lot of work to do it well so I kept postponing it, but it's coming soon.
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Normally shortly after a patch comes, you post about it and how you consumed all it's content in a day or less. :P
Didn't see one of those from you for the June patch though...
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I really wish they had added something like 100 more merits or something, that would have kept me busy and happier :P
Let's hope the upcoming expansion has more of that too and not just new areas and missions.
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