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prgp June 12 2006, 13:21:41 UTC
So here's a thought mandatory vaccinations or no NHS cover, your call.

Cool, does that mean they don't pay NI ?

Is it right (morally/ethically) for a government to punish a child for their parent's lack of education ?

Is it right for a government to say - "We know best, do as you're told!" without producing evidence ? Or allowing people access to the information required to educate themselves. The alternative is to have newspaper owners "tell us the truth" (usually a pack of half-truths and misinformation) and we all have seen were that leads us ...

There again, I am so pissed off with people who don't take their full course of meds and breed "super bugs" - how do you enforce a policy for the common good without striping people of their liberty ?
[Mr. P is thinking that shooting them is possibly a bit harsh, but it might help...]

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gently_snoozing June 12 2006, 14:45:15 UTC
"Cool, does that mean they don't pay NI ( ... )

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prgp June 12 2006, 15:35:09 UTC
"Cool, does that mean they don't pay NI ?"
Nah, there is no direct link between NI and funding for the NHS, make people realise what they are paying for and they tend to use it properly.

Well there should be - let me reiterate, there was until somewhere down the line the line between why we are paying this money (NI/income tax) and where it is going got so blurred that who knows how our money is actually being spent. So the question is, if I am paying Income Tax why do I pay NI ?

(and don't say pensions, because that is a load)

"Is it right (morally/ethically) for a government to punish a child for their parent's lack of education ?"
They are still their parents responsibility till they reach their majority... I'm guessing parents will start behaving repsonibly once they see the end results of stupidity. Besides the state isn't punishing anyone, the parents are.So let me get this right - the government refuses treatment of a child that requires it when it is asked for, but they are not liable for any of the blame. Treating people ( ... )

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gently_snoozing June 12 2006, 16:33:09 UTC
Im snipping for brevity ( ... )

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The General Medical Council and Wakefield anonymous July 20 2006, 17:25:24 UTC
Now why are we surprised that the GMC made these charges against Wakefield, attacked him and then dropped the chanres?

The General Medical Council is a pretty dishonourable old-boy's network. They forge ahead with complaints or ignore tham based almost soley on race, political expediency and seniority of the accused person within the network. They accuse and convict lowly black and asian doctors of research misconduct with abandon, but the more serious malefactor are usually political big fish (often also working with industry or are doctors within the drug regulatory bodies). It is extraordinary that some senior medics within the MHRA (the regulators) have not yet been brought to book for their sins in the SSRI/GSK scandal - there are many cases of fraud in medicine every bit as serious as that of the Wakefield case, but these are ignored - because they involve government agencies (the MHRA) or big pharmaceutical companies.

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