I'm with you on this, but don't you feel that the Conservative movement needs to get its own house in order? I really don't know about our current situation. It seems... wishy washy.
Not sure what you mean... I mean, I know that the Conservative movement needs to be more concrete about its inclusion, etc... but not sure what you mean here.
CBST is a non-affiliated synagogue, and our presence at the rally last week was to show that religious people can disagree on this. In other words, regarding Prop 8 etc, the loudest religious voices are those opposed to marriage equality. Part of the New York State Pride Agenda's er, agenda, is to show that religious people can, er, go both ways, as it were. So, we were there were specifically religious signs to show that we, as a synagogue, support marriage equality.
I can't wait for my movement to get its stuff together, when in New York, the issue is coming up very soon. I can only say that I, as a future clergyperson and a seminary student, am in support of civil marriage for all. :o)
Civil marriage for all? Not full on Jewish marriage for all? Didn't know that CBST was non-affiliated. Sorry. My dumbth. I am just annoyed at my own shul for taking a long time to 'make up its mind' i.e. for the rabbi to decide who he wants to tick off.
Oh, I definitely support full-on Jewish marriage for all, too. This rally was more for the civil part, though. We can do gay weddings by us, but can't do them civilly in NY. boo.
CBST is united by the being "the gay shul," thing, from a time when few synagogues were open and welcoming, rather than by movement affiliation. We have a recon rabbi, a conservative rabbi, a reform cantor, a reform intern, and an conservative intern, at the moment.
Boo, rabbis who don't deal with it. Want me to call him? ;o)
OK. I am putting aside the polemics for now. I do not believe in Gay 'marriage' personally for a number of reasons (though I'm fine with civil 'unions.' Write between you any contract you like.). My question to those here is, on what halachic grounds could you possibly call a marriage between two men or two women 'marriage?' Knowing the ins and outs of a Jewish marriage according to halachah, it seems rather impossible to me.
I would also point out that G-d does 'discriminate,' quite widely. Different rules apply to Kohanim, Leviim, and other Israelites, between Jews (who are expected to keep the 613 commandments) and gentiles (who are held only to the 7 laws of Noach), between children and adults, between a Kohen with a physical flaw and one without. Need I go on? --- B'ahavat Yisrael
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CBST is a non-affiliated synagogue, and our presence at the rally last week was to show that religious people can disagree on this. In other words, regarding Prop 8 etc, the loudest religious voices are those opposed to marriage equality. Part of the New York State Pride Agenda's er, agenda, is to show that religious people can, er, go both ways, as it were. So, we were there were specifically religious signs to show that we, as a synagogue, support marriage equality.
I can't wait for my movement to get its stuff together, when in New York, the issue is coming up very soon. I can only say that I, as a future clergyperson and a seminary student, am in support of civil marriage for all. :o)
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Didn't know that CBST was non-affiliated. Sorry. My dumbth.
I am just annoyed at my own shul for taking a long time to 'make up its mind' i.e. for the rabbi to decide who he wants to tick off.
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CBST is united by the being "the gay shul," thing, from a time when few synagogues were open and welcoming, rather than by movement affiliation. We have a recon rabbi, a conservative rabbi, a reform cantor, a reform intern, and an conservative intern, at the moment.
Boo, rabbis who don't deal with it. Want me to call him? ;o)
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I am entranced by the rainbowiness!!
I should comment with a you-go-girl type of thing, but you know that already.
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I would also point out that G-d does 'discriminate,' quite widely. Different rules apply to Kohanim, Leviim, and other Israelites, between Jews (who are expected to keep the 613 commandments) and gentiles (who are held only to the 7 laws of Noach), between children and adults, between a Kohen with a physical flaw and one without. Need I go on?
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B'ahavat Yisrael
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