Isn't it sad

Aug 05, 2010 08:27

Isn't it sad that we're in the year 2010 and we're still worrying more in the USA about same sex marriage than stuff that really affects everyone like, oh..THE ENERGY CRISIS ( Read more... )

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fanboy_of_zeus August 5 2010, 13:54:54 UTC
Enlightenment is about realizing you don't know everything. Morality, at least the version American religious conservatives seem to be pushing, is about thinking you do and forcing it on everyone else.

There's little I hate more than know-it-alls. I know better than to be like that, I ought to sit them down and pound it into their heads that...oh wait.

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ginalin August 5 2010, 14:39:45 UTC
Well, that's exactly right. When you think you know everything, that's not enlightenment...that's the delusion that you're a god. LOL

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fanboy_of_zeus August 5 2010, 14:46:27 UTC
A delusion with a disturbing amount of support in some religions, I've heard homilies along those lines from Catholic priests - "I'm God, you have to do everything I say without question" and so on. They'd tell you it's not a delusion, the priest literally IS God (...for one brief instant during mass, I feel compelled to point out, but some of them think it carries over to the rest of their lives). But yeah, that's not enlightenment, that's ego.

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ginalin August 6 2010, 01:05:28 UTC
In the kind of holistic spirituality I embrace, overfeeding the ego is detrimental to evolving the soul.

Any faith that encourages ego to that extent is barking up the wrong dogma...

Ego rarely needs encouragement, it's the first part of ourselves we develop, so it's a pretty strong thing, unless totally abused or beaten down. We need it for survival, but it's a monster when it takes over.

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tatgoat August 5 2010, 14:00:10 UTC
With you all the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You know Greek???

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ginalin August 5 2010, 14:41:04 UTC
I know enough from my studies to know that some parts of the Bible were translated by people who slid their own prejudices and agendas into it.
But, what else is new? That's what people tend to do.

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tatgoat August 5 2010, 14:46:03 UTC
Surprise surprise....

That's the reason that I love to read your entries you are saying things with their names and sufisient bite...

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ginalin August 5 2010, 14:48:37 UTC
A quick summary.
The word translated "homosexuals" or "men who lie with men" in Greek is not the Greek word for homosexual.
That word is "adonokoite" which literally means "sex between males".
The word the apostle Paul uses 4 times in his writing is "adenokoite" which looks a little like "adonokoite" but isn't the same word.

Adenokoite is a word not really found in modern Greek usage, it refers to something that was part of the culture then, but has died out.
It is used in a heterosexual context, for one thing, it has nothing to do with same sex relations.
It meant "temple prostitute" roughly according to most Biblical scholars who are more familiar with the Greek culture and language of the time. Paul was warning against having sex with people(male of female) who prostituted themselves in the name of a local god or goddess...very much part of Greek society at the time.
Mostly because it was spiritually inconsistent with Christianity, but not because it was "queer"...temple prostitutes were both male and female.

That's all.

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ginalin August 5 2010, 14:42:10 UTC
That's um..disturbing...but hilarious...

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ginalin August 5 2010, 17:24:00 UTC
Omnipresence in the individual sense is kind of "ceiling cat" creepy to me. LOL

An omnipresent force is one thing, but someone looking everywhere at everything...too big brother.

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gwendolynflight August 6 2010, 05:03:56 UTC
Do you have links or sources on the greek? I'd love to bring this up in class, sneakily ...

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ginalin August 6 2010, 16:37:28 UTC
Yeah, there are a couple of sites that explain it, probably better than I did.

Strangely enuf, you happen to Google "adenokoite" you get my own comments on an exJW forum about the subject under my other online name, "mindmelda".
I"m Googleable! LOL

I like this site, though.
http://www.soulforce.org/article/homosexuality-bible-gay-christian

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gwendolynflight August 7 2010, 00:25:52 UTC
Brilliant, thanks!

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