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Nov 06, 2010 23:23







First of all, the author should stop retconning, writing over plot holes and utterly stupid bullshit. Just glance over the latest chapters:

- Kishi said through Kakashi, one of the wisest characters in the series, that the Sharingan was said to descend from the Byakugan, but this got retconned a few chapters ago - not anymore, the sharingan descends from the sage’s rinnegan, and fuck the byakugan
- Sasuke survives with absolutely no chakra against deidara, against a nuke. Possibly biggest asspull in the series.
- Kisame knew Gai was a taijutsu user from fighting him not once but twice, yet suddenly loses half his braincells during their last fight, forgets this little fact and loses because of it.
- The moon goes around the earth. Madara's plan is hypnotizing everyone on earth with a moon-sharingan. Derp.
- Naruto forgot about Hinata. Chapter count: over 85
- Pain is later revealed to be Naruto’s cousin
- His father, his mother, a fox, a crow, a frog and his dark persona live in Naruto’s belly, with Bee and his octopus popping by for visits.
- Itachi could have kidnapped Sasuke all this time, or at least told him the truth about Konoha, and the truth about Madara, and prevent all this faggotry, but Kishi wanted to milk it
- 600 billion exploding pieces of paper would cover about 14% of the earth’s surface. And it IS fucking retarded.
- 600 billion exploding pieces of paper would cover about 14% of the earth’s surface. And it IS fucking retarded.
- Main character hyperventilates and passes out just by thinking about his lover. No, really.
- Sasuke’s incredibly dumb and flawed reasoning of allying with Madara and attacking Konoha to get revenge for his brother (which Sasuke himself killed in the first place), even though that’s the one thing his brother specifically didn’t want and he made this damn clear.
- Naruto twists his ankle by accident (derp) right after getting the biggest powerup in the series, as a convenient excuse to have Gai fight
- The three stooges who are supposed to be strong jounin somehow really think they could capture and properly detain an S rank missing ninja in a wood prison. Did they not learn from their fumble with Kisame? They should know by now that these people won't give out any information, act like real ninjas for once (oh the blasphemy) and go for the kill.
- Naruto’s latest retardations: he still thinks he's on a S-ranked ecological mission, despite having Bee and half a dozen strong ninja with him, and not knowing jackshit about biology (don’t forget he is the guy who, at the ripe age of 16, thought a pregnant woman was just fat), and spends his time looking at and fondling armadillo penises.

Nagato/Pain was absolutely ruthless, killed children and killed like half of an entire village.

Then after some PEP TALK from a fucking teenager he decides to sacrifice his life to resurrect everyone and let Naruto handle it

And why? Not because Naruto had a better solution or anything, but basically because he said "Well I don't have an answer, but I'll find one. BELIEVE IT!"

And he just did. What the fuck man.

FUCKING RETARDED

I've always found Naruto's and Sasuke's bond incredibly trite and forced. It keeps trying to tell us how close and brotherly and all, but you rarely see it through the whole series. I mean you get a few twinges of a genuine bond such as when Sasuke saved Naruto from Haku, but most of the time it doesn't feel all that close at all. I was actually caught off guard when Naruto was talking about how important Sasuke was to him during the Valley of the End because their relationship never seemed all that strong. And that's not even getting into part 2 when Naruto's bond seems more like obsessive gay love than anything. And now that I think about it, this goes for the rookies as well. We're supposed to believe that the Konoha ninja are like a family, but we never see them interact. I mean, why did Naruto rage over Hinata's death again? They never even talk! And Kishi even forces scenes where everyone is like "hey Naruto, I haven't seen you in a long time" like they were old friends and all...how come? When the fuck did this happen? It didn’t, that’s what. Kishimoto writes horrible depiction of friendship bonds, and tries to make them the central point of his manga, only to fail miserably.
- Art got worse as the manga went on. Allegedly tries to mimic a certain animators style, without the benefit of having the art move to make up for the flat look it sports these days.
- Characters have slightly developed over 500 fucking chapters and over 400 episodes. However, Kishimoto’s character development itself tends to be very poorly done, forced and generally poorly-written. Most are single-trait characters with a depressing past tacked on as an excuse to why they personally "never give up."
- Furthermore, these established characters get ignored left and right. Instead of using them, new characters get introduced, who also require additional narrative time to get established. Horrid power escalation, especially with Sasuke and recently also Naruto.
- Oftentimes heavy-handed attempts at symbolism throughout the story.
- Author doesn't quite get the balance right between messianic savior and utter retard, making the MC appear stagnant at times and his achievements seem asspullish.
a/, I can't help but think that HxH is everything that Naruto tried to be and failed monumentally. It is a legitimately good, and well-written shounen, as opposed to gay ninjas and plotarmor: the manga. While it’s true that their paths diverged after a couple hundred chapters, and Kishimoto couldn’t steal any more concepts and ideas from Togashi anymore due to all the hiatuses, some of their early similarities are borderline plagiarism, and the only reason Kishimoto doesn’t get called out on these more often is because he is friends with Togashi, HxH and YYH’s author, and because of Naruto’s inflated popularity in America.

Mind you, Naruto was always bad/mediocre, but it took a nosedive in quality exactly after HxH went on hiatus, leaving Kishimoto without his guiding point. No wonder Part II of Naruto consisted of Sasuke Rescue arcs and fighting old villains again, until Kishimoto finally decided what to write, albeit much too late.

Anyways, these similarities are pretty hard not to notice, and when there’s just too many of them, copied in such a blatant manner, it’s hard to call them just a coincidence. Let’s see:
- Gon’s best friend and rival Killua is a prodigy and very skilled from a prestigious family. He is the same age as Gon but with a more calm, serious and dark attitude. Killua's nen type is electricity (similar to Sasuke's lightning). Killua however, always remains a likable character, even outside of lolJapan, and his friendship bonds with the main character are portrayed and emphasized. In return, Gon also goes all out to take Killua away from his own deadly assassin family, Naruto goes all out to retrieve Sasuke from his best friend’s very powerful and dangerous mentor. Also, Killua’s electricity Hatsu is copied to Naruto in the form of Sasuke’s Chidori Nagashi.

- Kurapika is the last survivor of the massacre of the Kuruta clan. He lives for revenge above anything. The Kuruta clan has a special ability called "Scarlet Eyes" their eyes turn red. Kishimoto combined him and Killua to create Sasuke. Halfway through the series however, his troubles are dealt with without the descent into DARKNESS.

- The main protagonist Gon has a father who is a legendary Hunter, but Gon has never met him or his mother. The 4th hokage was also considered legendary and this was present very early in Naruto, and Naruto an orphan. Both series start with the main characters’ childhood where Gon and Naruto are twelve-year old boys
- The concept of special moves are quite similar. While lots of shounen deal with auras and energies, in this case Chakra is a clear adaptation of Nen. Some of the jutsus, like puppetry, summons and elemental properties, are also present in the Chakra concept. Additionally, put a piece of paper in a glass of water and put your hands on top of it in HxH and you find out your Nen Specialization affinity. Do the exact same thing in Naruto and you find out your chakra element.

- Nen training is actual training. Togashi undoubtedly writes some of the best training arcs in all shounen in HxH. This is quite a feat, because those generally suck, and they in fact do suck in Naruto. Chakra training is clapping your hands, using clones to learn faster, fighting your dark persona and swallowing frogs.

- Gon is considered oddly special by most people who meet him. He is a very honest, determined and pure-hearted boy who brings out the good in people he encounters, making them friends. He is gifted with an ability to change people and make them believe in him. Same goes for Naruto, which in part II of the manga goes overboard, on this aspect, leading many to believe he’s being written as a mary-sue.
- Gon Freecs eventually gains 3 friends on his quest to be a hunter while Naruto becomes part of Team 7 in ninja school and also gains 3 friends, the other main characters, in the process.

- Both them have examination arcs, Hunter and Ninja. Both exams have a preliminary phase, where the main characters go through a dangerous forest and are toyed with by a creepy pedo villain (Hisoka/Orochimaru), and a tournament phase, where the characters fight each other, to win the approval of the head figure (Chairman Netero/Third Hokage). HxH, however, has series of intelligent and well-written challenges to test various skills, some of the mental ones are even written to surprise the readers. Naruto at best has a a cheerio's annual prize race.
The Phantom Brigade/Genei Ryodan is a band of extremely powerful criminals, similar to Akatsuki, except for the fact that they actually do shit. The leader of Phantom Brigade Chrollo Lucifer has a special nen ability to copy and use any Nen ability no matter what type of Nen it is. The leader of Akatsuki has the special rinnegan which lets him have complete mastery over all types of chakra element. Hisoka, the creepy pedo villain, is part of the Phantom Brigade, but has always had his own secret agenda, and eventually leaves the Phantom Brigade, not unlike Orochimaru and Akatsuki.

- At one point, Gon meets Biscuit, a 50something lady which has developed a technique to make herself always look young (much like Genkai from YYH, also from Togashi), hiding her true appearance. Exactly like Tsunade from Naruto.

Since Hunter x Hunter is so much better than it’s ripoff Naruto, why do people still keep with with those gay ninjas?
Naruto is a fucking idiot. Beyond the retard of Luffy and Ichigo. All you have to do is read from his confrontation of Nagato to his meeting with Sasuke.
"Why should I believe anything you say when everything is just connected by hatred blah blah"
"HURR DURR DERP TRUST ME I WILL FIND A WAY TO BREAK THE CYCLE OF HATRED"
"LOL OK"
"You're either going to be the man who's going to kill me or be killed by me"
"LOL I WON'T KILL YOU OR BE KILLED BY YOU MY ANSWER IS...."
next chapter
"SASUKE ME AND YOU ARE GOING TO DIE TOGETHER"

Lol wat?
Part 1 Naruto: I've surpassed you Sasuke! You'll acknowledge me as a rival, hurr BELIEVE IT!

Part 2 Naruto: You’re wrong... I can't defeat Sasuke at his current level... I just knew.
Sasuke surviving against Deidara's final suicide one of the biggest asspulls in shounen over the last decade, only topped by a couple things in Naruto itself. Sasuke had NO chakra left. People can feel each other's chakra sizes, Deidara said Sasuke had no Chakra left. He couldn't even maintain sharingan eyes to force Deidara to tell him anything. But somehow, I'm supposed to believe than in the two microseconds after Deidara's detonation, Sasuke is supposed to have not ONLY summoned a giant snake to shield him, but ALSO to sharingan-spell it (which sharingan he can't make), and THEN somewhere far away, at that exact milisecond of the explosion, Suigetsu knows he has to magically summon Sasuke (lolwut? Telepathy?) to save him? Am I REALLY supposed to think, within the rules set up within that universe and my own common sense, that that is possible, and NOT just a get-out clause?
Even back in the day when it's characters weren't sameface, they most surely were unappealing and whiney (Naruto is a generic ADD shonen hero only even more boring and with extra teenage angst and butthurt, Sasuke is emo and fangirl bait, Sakura is one of the most annoying and useless female characters in all of shonen. Stereotypical tsundere to the main character, pink hair, has a crush on a character which is her only motivation for even trying to do anything).

The action and fights are forgettable on the most part. In the beginning Naruto had a few interesting fights but couldn't really hold his own against any enemies. This is still better than him turning into an overpowered character that uses Rasengan to solve all of his problems.

Story started out rather intriguing though nothing unique by any stretch- ninja school friendship dumb outcast kid trying to become something important blah blah blah. It then spiraled downward into being something out of an obese emo fangirl's fanfiction with lots of ANGST and DARKNESS.

the worst part of Naruto is the fanbase which consists of teenage boys who think its "holy shit epic" because it's the only anime they've ever seen (and they watched the english dub) and because they have no taste or concept of what a well developed story should be.
The even worse half of the fanbase consists of drooling fangirls with ninja headbands and wardrobes entirely bought at hot topic who will become extremely enraged and might try to eat you if you insult their husbando Sasuke-kun or insult their 75 part fanfiction about their mary sue "Charlotte DeGradia Izumi Inami Asami" who has a nine tailed persian cat living inside her and has giant tits.
Sasuke chooses to abandon his village, friends, and team in search for the "power" to defeat his brother. Never mind the fact that his brother became as strong as he did in said village, or the fact that he was going to knowingly give his body and soul up for this power. He did it anyway. This is a complte derailment from his earlier character growth (during the chunin exams he began to care for his team, and view Naruto as a comrade and friend). So, he chose an idiotic fast route to gaining the strength to kill his brother.

Next, he gains massive amounts of power by doing nothing more than getting stronger eyes. No work, no effort, just killing his brother, and he gets eyes strong enough to take on Naruto (who, well at least kinda worked to become strong) without breaking a sweat.

He killed his brother, completing his life's ambition, and then what does he do! He finds out that Itachi was a good guy all along. He does not admit his mistake though, oh no. instead, he latches on to the idea that "it is all Konoha's fault." So, he is also incapable of admitting his own mistakes.

He goes emo about his brother killing his family, he kills his brother for revenge, he finds out his brother had a damn good reason for killing his family and loved Konoha, so in respect of all that he swears to destroy Konoha completely going against his brother's final wish. Such great, logical writing. He gave up his life for power, doesn't work for anything, and blames everyone else for his own problems. What a great character.

Pic related, Sasuke is now more plot-armored than ever and the Raikage lost an arm for this, to no effect.
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