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Sep 23, 2005 00:50

Fact to know: I’ve been a vegetarian since July of last year ( Read more... )

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kleios_kiss September 22 2005, 22:04:15 UTC
Well, ants don't really count as meat. Technically, I don't believe that chicken count as meat either (that would just be poultry or game, oui?). You may have broken your no-creatures-with-some-form-of-a-nervous-system diet, but not your meat-free diet!

And I'm sure it was worth it for the chocolate. I wouldn't mind a half an ant or two in exchange for some good chocolate covered espresso beans.

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globedoc September 28 2005, 20:21:29 UTC
Those were AWESOME chocolate covered expresso beans, so I can't really blame the ants for coveting them.
Thankfully, they also hid the taste of the ant...

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petitfour September 22 2005, 22:35:47 UTC
you didn't, especially in the eyes of whatever powers that be. you didn't consiously eat meat, and especially didn't intend to do so.

my friends who are kosher eat in the same way, that if as far as they were told, something is kosher meat and it turns out not to be, it's still a-okay with the big guy upstairs.

don't worry too much about it. i'm sure the ants have already forgotten about the whole thing...

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globedoc September 28 2005, 20:22:30 UTC
Yeah, ants are Kosher, apparently, so both your friends and myself can eat them with a clear conscience (well, as long as I didn't know in advance that I'm eating one).

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ravrhi September 23 2005, 00:30:42 UTC
At least you got protein to go with your chocolate! Seriously though, fish? Not a meat. Chicken? Technically not a meat. Ants? Crustations. Not meat, either. You're good. =)

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the_id_kid September 23 2005, 00:40:17 UTC
Leave it to ravhri to nail the joke before I could get to it!
*laughs*
I don't think it counts- you didn't conciously eat it. So, if your veganism is morality based, it didn't count.
And besides, don't you know? The great big suckers they call, "Piss Ants" in the south taste alot better. *grin*

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globedoc September 28 2005, 20:24:01 UTC
Hehehe. I do think you two share a brain sometimes...
Though I don't think she's dined on those southern ants yet...

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globedoc September 28 2005, 20:23:19 UTC
I do eat fish.
But not meat or chicken.
I'm hopefully coming to Israel this winter. Almost certainly. Hope to see you :)

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lalouve September 23 2005, 03:20:33 UTC
Ethically speaking, I would imagine the lack of intention gets you off the hook - although a medieval theologian would probably argue that there is still a stain from committing an unethical action. Tcehnically, I don't know if ants count as meat? But since they once had life, before you brutally bit them in half, I would imagine so?

Says the woman who reads medieval theology for pleasure and who is not at all vegetarian...

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globedoc September 28 2005, 20:54:03 UTC
Would a medieval theologian feel that, due to the stain of the Original Sin, I was predestined to eat the ant? Since our destiny is predetermined...

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Mmm, chocolate covered ants... arriya September 23 2005, 06:06:37 UTC
(Actually I am approximate honey vegan. =)

There are conventions about what a vegetarian or meat-free diet is and ways of interpreting the terms that make sense according to there etymology, but there is no basis for thinking that there is some true vegetarianism (as in some essence or Platonic form) that you're striving for.

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Re: Mmm, chocolate covered ants... globedoc September 28 2005, 20:26:23 UTC
Quite true, and quite perceptive!
I'm hoping to become a honey vegan myself, working my way toward it. Already cut most milk and its products - but altering a lifetime of eating habits is quite hard. In another year, I think, we'll be eating the same foods :)

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Re: Mmm, chocolate covered ants... arriya September 29 2005, 03:41:51 UTC
What's a honey vegan?

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Re: Mmm, chocolate covered ants... globedoc September 29 2005, 04:06:07 UTC
A vegan who eats honey; some vegans won't eat honey because it's an animal byproduct.

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