Just...amazing. I am so bad at feedback and these are the situations where that makes me want to *cry*, because this was a wonderful story and deserves articulate feedback!
I'm so proud of Dick, bizarre as that might sound, but I am. So proud that he learned and grew. And oh, Tim. I finished the story thinking "I'm so glad he and Dick have each other!" Which I'm reasonably sure was the goal. ;)
Dense, lovely, layered fic, and Jason and Alfred and Bruce-in-absentia just as well-drawn as the characters in focus. This was definitely worth the wait and all of your work.
I don't think you're bad at feedback *at all*. This made my day, sweetness, and let me thank you all over again for all your patience with me this summer regarding this damn fic.
I'm so proud of Dick, bizarre as that might sound, but I am. Not bizarre - that's exactly how I felt, too, and doubted I could get into words.
I finished the story thinking "I'm so glad he and Dick have each other!" Which I'm reasonably sure was the goal. My tinhat, let me show you it. *jaunty*
This was crazy, and fucked-up, and also beautiful. It makes me extremely glad I was lucky enough to be around right at the time I could read it.
I loved Dick in this, and more than that, I felt I could understand him. He's perfect in his imperfections, and missing and finally *getting* of the point, and of Tim's head games, and Jason's *dancing*.
It just made for a really... really pure and *real* story. Like, these aren't characters, they're people.
I felt I could understand him. He's perfect in his imperfections, and missing and finally *getting* of the point That is *such* a compliment, since it captures just about all I wanted to accomplish, and I can't thank you enough.
This is such marvelous feedback - thank you so much!
how no one, even themselves is completely sure about how to react to their own emotions. *nodnod* They all have different modes of repression and denial, I think? After all, they learned from the best, Bruce.
I worked out what was going on half way through, and Dick didn't--which made me think a lot about you can have patterns, and they can come together, but if you can't remove your preconceived notions about things Oh, I'm *so* happy that worked for you. I had a lot of guilt about seeming to abandon the "mystery", but I liked moving the focus onto Dick's participation in it.
I'm also delighted to hear that the parallelism worked for you - Jay and Pete, Dick and Tim, and Kon and Bart. I didn't want to overwork things structurally, but the patterns *are* there. Plus, Jay is *so much* fun to write, I can't even express it.
the discussion of Dick's real charm is himself, and not just his power of the hotass*beams* I struggled with whether to include that, because it was SO DAMN
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That is really one of the best Dick/Tim stories I've ever read: it's hard to explore the essential difficulties/potential problems of their relationship in such a thorough but engaging way, and in a way that doesn't feel like conscious exploration. Characterization, as always, is so gratifyingly dead on. For whatever reason, I'm used to reading from Tim's perspective, getting into the over-analytical, neurotic insight deal. To me, Dick's ways are also alien, heh. But written like this, it's not alien at all. The way Dick acts at the profound distance both Tim and Bruce are capable of projecting brings, as someone else mentioned, that uncomfortable sense that stems, I think, just from how strongly Dick feels.
I also love Jason, Babs, Alfred, and Bruce (even if he wasn't technically present for a great deal of the story). ♥Batfamily♥. How Babs knows what's what, unlike her silly boys, and Alfred may not know the details (and, heck, probably is okay with that) but patiently points out how to best go about finding them out. I love that
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Oh, wow! This is such wonderful feedback, I'm not sure if I can reply adequately and express my gratitude. Here goes...
in a way that doesn't feel like conscious exploration Yes! I wrestled for a long time with how Dick, particularly, resists the kind of metatextual thoughts that would come easily to Bruce or Tim. He just *is* and doesn't lend himself to meta, if that makes sense? It was a fairly new experience for me to have a character like that as POV character. Actually, you captured it beautifully when you said that uncomfortable sense that stems, I think, just from how strongly Dick feels. I'm much better at understanding overthinking and crazy cogitation, but in the end, it was *joy* to figure out, however temporarily, how Dick might go about things.
♥Batfamily♥ I love them so! I kept worrying that the fic was too focused on the OTP of Dick/Tim, but, looking back, I realized that's kind of impossible -- they're all present and interconnected and can't help but be like that.
it was really nice how the story neither neglects
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Just...amazing. I am so bad at feedback and these are the situations where that makes me want to *cry*, because this was a wonderful story and deserves articulate feedback!
I'm so proud of Dick, bizarre as that might sound, but I am. So proud that he learned and grew. And oh, Tim. I finished the story thinking "I'm so glad he and Dick have each other!" Which I'm reasonably sure was the goal. ;)
Dense, lovely, layered fic, and Jason and Alfred and Bruce-in-absentia just as well-drawn as the characters in focus. This was definitely worth the wait and all of your work.
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I'm so proud of Dick, bizarre as that might sound, but I am.
Not bizarre - that's exactly how I felt, too, and doubted I could get into words.
I finished the story thinking "I'm so glad he and Dick have each other!" Which I'm reasonably sure was the goal.
My tinhat, let me show you it. *jaunty*
Thank you!
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I loved Dick in this, and more than that, I felt I could understand him. He's perfect in his imperfections, and missing and finally *getting* of the point, and of Tim's head games, and Jason's *dancing*.
It just made for a really... really pure and *real* story. Like, these aren't characters, they're people.
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I felt I could understand him. He's perfect in his imperfections, and missing and finally *getting* of the point
That is *such* a compliment, since it captures just about all I wanted to accomplish, and I can't thank you enough.
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I'm so glad you enjoyed this!
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how no one, even themselves is completely sure about how to react to their own emotions.
*nodnod* They all have different modes of repression and denial, I think? After all, they learned from the best, Bruce.
I worked out what was going on half way through, and Dick didn't--which made me think a lot about you can have patterns, and they can come together, but if you can't remove your preconceived notions about things
Oh, I'm *so* happy that worked for you. I had a lot of guilt about seeming to abandon the "mystery", but I liked moving the focus onto Dick's participation in it.
I'm also delighted to hear that the parallelism worked for you - Jay and Pete, Dick and Tim, and Kon and Bart. I didn't want to overwork things structurally, but the patterns *are* there. Plus, Jay is *so much* fun to write, I can't even express it.
the discussion of Dick's real charm is himself, and not just his power of the hotass*beams* I struggled with whether to include that, because it was SO DAMN ( ... )
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I also love Jason, Babs, Alfred, and Bruce (even if he wasn't technically present for a great deal of the story). ♥Batfamily♥. How Babs knows what's what, unlike her silly boys, and Alfred may not know the details (and, heck, probably is okay with that) but patiently points out how to best go about finding them out. I love that ( ... )
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in a way that doesn't feel like conscious exploration
Yes! I wrestled for a long time with how Dick, particularly, resists the kind of metatextual thoughts that would come easily to Bruce or Tim. He just *is* and doesn't lend himself to meta, if that makes sense? It was a fairly new experience for me to have a character like that as POV character. Actually, you captured it beautifully when you said that uncomfortable sense that stems, I think, just from how strongly Dick feels. I'm much better at understanding overthinking and crazy cogitation, but in the end, it was *joy* to figure out, however temporarily, how Dick might go about things.
♥Batfamily♥
I love them so! I kept worrying that the fic was too focused on the OTP of Dick/Tim, but, looking back, I realized that's kind of impossible -- they're all present and interconnected and can't help but be like that.
it was really nice how the story neither neglects ( ... )
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