Faith or far from it

May 17, 2005 23:16

A few days ago, my dear friend silentnumbsmoke made a post about how she wishes she didn't feel the need to censor her entries, how she wishes she could post what she feels and not worry about what people think of her. Well, so do I. I've got more filters than I'm really comfortable with, weeding people out based on what I know they'll be offended by. I don't ( Read more... )

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brokenangel5 May 19 2005, 05:55:46 UTC
yay! thank you for being bold enough to put that out there, it makes a lot of sense, and it's beautifully written. something like that just makes me all relaxed and thoughtful-like, for once someone just explaining what they think/believe without trying to push it down anyone's throat. and on a topic such as this, that doesn't happen often.

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gnosis_soul May 20 2005, 05:59:08 UTC
You already know how thankful I am for your support. :) *arm sprouts*

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ellen_drell May 20 2005, 05:31:35 UTC
Okay, I know that this whole thing is about stating your opinion without getting a bunch of shit for it, but some of this still kind of hurts me, you know? Not like I had to read it, but you're my friend and I do and the fact that I believe in this stuff and you don't makes me feel kind of alone, or like... scared or something. I mean, it's not just Hallelujahs and sitting in church and hippie shit and something for people to find comfort in for the time being. To me, it's real stuff, despite the fact that I'm doing a fucked-up job of staying true to it. I feel like I've been hearing this from people around me so much lately. And it's not that I don't want you to say it, it's just that it's bigger than just expressing an opinion. Maybe it's just me getting on here and seeing all your friends agree with you about it. I don't know if you know where I'm coming from on that. For me, it feels like everyone is just giving up on everything. I know. Nevermind. I'm going.

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brokenangel5 May 20 2005, 05:55:11 UTC
hey i never said i agreed with her, i said i appreciated the way she expressed it. don't feel alone, because if you were the only one who believed in god there wouldn't be such a lot of controversy about it. if you're scared that no one else takes it seriously, don't be. and if you're scared specifically because nicola doesn't, just remember that you've loved her all this time for a ton of reasons other than what she believes or doesn't believe, and none of that's changed...

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gnosis_soul May 20 2005, 05:58:04 UTC
Let me just start out by saying that you were the one I was most afraid about posting this. I was afraid I would offend you and I'm sorry to see I did. But the fact is that this wasn't directed towards you, and I don't feel I was attacking your beliefs. I briefly considered posting this on a filter excluding you, but I figured that would be just as offensive if not more. You're right, you didn't have to read it.

I'm sorry it hurts you, but it hurts me that you'd read this statement of my belief and feel the need to comment as if this was something personally directed towards you, or at least in your general vicinity. This post came out of everything I've been dealing with over the past year, how I felt that my beliefs were constantly being attacked because I'm in an environment where most of the people believe one way and I believe another. It is bigger than just expressing an opinion. But I really hope you don't think that when I expressed this feeling that I changed in any way. This is who I've been for a long time, this is ( ... )

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aquidis May 23 2005, 03:36:11 UTC
I don't know what made me saunter over to your journal today, but here I am. I agree with you and Stephanie, bringing that guy to speak was an incredibly bad idea. All it did was stir up more debate and animosity in the class. I did get a bit out of it though, seeing more of each side, and the different "camps" he set up. I'm somewhere in the middle. I think God was the original creator of the universe, but how it evolved from there, I don't know. And frankly, I don't see how it's so much of a big deal. Evolution/natural selection are fascinating to try to work out though.

One of my favorite quotes, from Blaise Pascal: "Belief is a wise wager. Granted that faith cannot be proved, what harm will come to you if you gamble on its truth and it proves false? If you gain, you gain all; if you lose, you lose nothing. Wager, then, without hesitation, that He exists."

Anyways.

/ talking much more than I ever have in class

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gnosis_soul May 23 2005, 03:43:07 UTC
Thank you very much for taking a look at this. I'm in the same boat as you as far as fascination goes. I think learning more about both sides is incredibly interesting. Even though my general viewpoint may not change (or maybe it will!), I still gain something every time I hear about it. I just didn't think Dr. Kenney was a very effective speaker, what with his "tins." I think it would have been a lot more effective if he'd just talked and answered questions.

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