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golodhgwath

Tomb of Jesus Found

Feb 26, 2007 16:11

Breaking News: 335 AD

St. Eleni, the mother of the Emperor Konstandinos, uncovered the tomb of Christ in Jerusalem. In the subsequent 17 centuries, it has continued to be a site of pilgrimage for Christians.

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prester_scott February 27 2007, 00:39:14 UTC

Gordon didn't claim to have found Jesus's body in the tomb. Kind of a difference there, no?

golodhgwath February 27 2007, 01:07:16 UTC

Yes. Big difference. Only similarity I intended to convey was that there is a history of false claims about finding the "real tomb" of Jesus. Gordon, of course, wasn't trying to subvert the Gospel.

whune February 27 2007, 01:46:46 UTC

...I'm just wondering where they got their DNA sample of Christ that "[matches with some sample from Cameron's tomb]"

prester_scott February 27 2007, 01:55:54 UTC

Cheek swab. While Jesus wasn't busy being dead, or not existing, y'know.

golodhgwath February 27 2007, 02:15:40 UTC

They did a mtDNA analysis on the person in the ossuary marked "Jesus son of Joseph" and on the person in the ossuary marked "Mariamene e Mara" and determined that they were not related. They are making extraordinary and unsupportable claims from little and otherwise unrelated materials.

How about this bit of mumbo-jumbo? "Judah," whom they indicate may have been their son, could have been the "lad" described in the Gospel of John as sleeping in Jesus' lap at the Last Supper.

"One of his disciples, whom Jesus loved, was lying close to the breast of Jesus;" [John 13:23]. Not a "lad," and not "sleeping in Jesus' lap." These people are shameless. I'm offended, less as a Christian than simply as a person with a brain and ethics.

zcatcurious February 27 2007, 10:29:19 UTC

I went a little overboard.

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efriden April 7 2007, 09:27:03 UTC

If it's not too expensive, if I ever get to visit Jerusalem I would probably go visit the "garden tomb" too. Precisely because it doesn't have a church on top of it and wasn't vandalized by the Persians and the Muslims. It is probably the best way to get a feel for what it might have looked like back then. Kind of like having a full-scale model: you know it's not the real thing.

golodhgwath April 7 2007, 10:06:20 UTC

I will visit Jerusalem at least once for Pascha. The Orthodox Patriarch of Jerusalem goes into the Sepulchre to receive the miraculous Holy Fire, which comes out of the rock of the tomb.

The whole tomb is still there. It just has stuff around and on top of it. But it is still accessible. I don't think there's anything wrong with visiting the garden tomb. But it's just a random archaeological site having nothing to do with Jesus.

efriden April 7 2007, 13:16:05 UTC

From what I've understood the outer parts and entrance to the tomb itself have been severely vandalized by both anti-Christian invaders and have not been fully restored due to the extent of the vandalism? I know the "room" of the actual tomb is still there.