fuck you TVNZ

[grass_angel]

No advertising for the second series of Sherlock? I almost missed it if it weren't for my friend and her mother. And I really hope you don't have the US cut.

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[ipsius]

Oh yes, please watch Thor. Loki's character is very, very different in that movie. His subplot had a surprising depth and psychological complexity that was almost Shakespearean (haha Kenneth Branagh), and that was something that was completely missing in Avengers. I'm not even trying to hide the fact that he's my favorite character in this franchise. >_____>

Truth, Black Widow was one of the best things about that entire movie. Are people actually still saying that? Because if they are, then they can go trip over their own sexism and fall down a cliff.

[grass_angel]

It was already on my to-watch list because I absolutely adore Norse mythology, but it's even higher because now I just know there'll be more to Loki's backstory and his relationship with Thor will probably break my heart. Although I have been spoiled by Sherlock and expecting loads of references to the Eddas will probably disappoint me.

People are still working under the statute of spoilers and I generally don't hang around places that talk about comics movies much, but I have seen commentary defending her and her place in the movie. So yeah, aside from the people calling out Joss on the way he wrote the threats directed at her, there have been presumably people complaining about how she did nothing or was just eye candy. I did kind of feel that Captain America was mostly eye candy. Though that may be because I haven't seen his movie either and found his patriotism sickeningly sweet and naive. And he and Tony did get the lion's share of lines. Which also disappointed me.

[ipsius]

Ah, yes, you can go into Thor expecting nuanced character psychology on Loki's part, but it doesn't really deliver much on the actual mythology front. I mean, Aesir like Baldr and Freyja don't even exist, for example. And they're not even real gods, just aliens living in another dimension. >____> But Loki won't disappoint! The best thing about Loki in the Thor movie was that he was like an onion, just full of layers and layers to peel back, but everything he did made perfect sense. I think you've probably read Neil Gaiman's works? But I think his Norse gods in Sandman and American Gods would have much more of the mythology that you would enjoy. (Which reminds me that I really need to go reread American GodsI've only been reading comments on LJ, so I've only seen debates over whether Black Widow's characterization was sufficiently feminist. I have seen people who said they were uncomfortable with the way Black Widow chose to disarm people during interrogations, namely, by using their own gender preconceptions against them and making

[grass_angel]

Yep, read all of the Sandman and American Gods, though AG was several years ago. AG is fun to pick out mythological shout outs though. Sandman is more Greek/Roman mythology, with a dash of English folklore, however.
I am aware of this missing-whole-great-chunks-of-mythos and aliens part, and pretty much only nudges this Marvel!verse interpretation of mythology over towards where Doctor Who and Stargate are with their whole "advanced technology and manipulation of physics can look like magic and vice versa" spin on ancient gods.

I've been mostly reading things via tumblr and twitter, which are mostly along the same lines. I was a little miffed that she was the only one who had extremely obvious air-brushing. (Tony Stark and Loki also had some I'm sure, but the art director made it really obvious with the close ups to her face.)
But there are only really two ways to subvert gender conventions as you said, and I much prefer the latter as well. Because you should treat all people the same and help people all the same. It's what a spy