Random Thoughtsez

[greeengiant]

Just researching random stuff about ancient cultures and their sexuality ( http://eviebyrne.blogspot.com/2008/03/secret-museum-post-1.html if you want more links, I have), and talking about a birthday party that would go overnight, and got to thinking about taboo.

Taboo. It's those weird things that we humans do and really have no idea why. We just

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[tallfemalemanta]

*laughs at us*

Yeah, I personally felt kind of bad that you guys would be forced outside in a tent if we were going to sleep over at the lake. Well, personally, I feel that tents are not all that bad to sleep in, but that's not what I'm getting at. Point well taken. :)

Wow, if we get married, I think we're going to have some weird-ass kids...

[greeengiant]

We'll see how it all goes down. We don't even know if we're going to the lake yet. But yeah, I wonder if anyone can be reasoned with. I can sleep in tents, but it's the principle of the matter, right?

As for our hypothetical kids, I'm pretty sure we'll teach them right, whether that be "weird" or not. They sure will be different, though.

[harpergrey]

I agree with you, man. I was younger than you and Tracy are now when I first had sex, and I'd only been dating the guy for about six months. Sexuality in this society is incredibly terrifying for a lot of people, and I've spent years trying to figure out why. There's really nothing that bad about it, and a proper education and knowledge of what precautions to take pretty much eliminate a lot of the risk. If people were just open about sexuality -- from teenage sexuality on up -- I think our society would have a lot fewer problems with itself. *hugs*

[greeengiant]

Ah, it's nice to hear someone agree with me.

I think you're definitely right. For some reason, all of our media is so in-your-face about sex, but everyone's terrified of it. Movies get rated higher for it as if it's something evil that should not be thought about by younger children, when it's just a fact of life.

Hopefully someone teaches the future generations well enough. All we can do for now is help our own [future] kids learn about it all sensibly.

[harpergrey]

And I've seen the point made before that there's a huge problem when movies are rated higher for sex than they are for realistic violence. The question of exactly what values people are trying to instill is a pretty good one. I mean, what would they honestly prefer? That their kids think it's less okay to have sex than to shoot someone? And then when something like Columbine happens, the media flails all over itself and blames Marilyn Manson for "evil lyrics", all the while ignoring the fact that these kids' parents had to know there was something frakked up going on and did nothing. North American values, man. Terrifying. O.O

[tallfemalemanta]

Same thoughts running through my head when we did "Bowling for Columbine" for Social class. WTF, people.

And I know you know that the Catholics and religious-y types are kind of insane when it comes to doing it before you're married. It's part of the general problem as well as a major part of this particular one. :)

[learan]

I was going to make a comment, but Joce said pretty much everything I would have. I think the lack of trust is utterly ridiculous. And, to clarify utterly ridiculous, I'd like to specify that the hypocrisy of it makes it DOUBLY UTTERLY ridiculous. Without being too TMI here, I'm willing to bet one of my limbs that Tracy's dad was in no way a virgin at your age, and I doubt that he'd been seeing the same girl for a number of years without laying an inappropriate hand on her. But, to them, 'back then' was a different time. It wasn't. It was just that their parents didn't know what they were getting up to, necessarily, so they 'got away' with it. In this fear-driven society, everyone knows, nobody talks, and there's no way that the former generations children will 'get away' with what they got away with

[greeengiant]

It's an interesting take on it, too. But you're totally right. All this stuff goes on, and the parents aren't helping by telling their kids they can't be near the opposite sex because they won't be able to help themselves. So when they DO get near the opposite sex, they've been taught all their lives that they can't control their hormones, so they don't even try. Or something like that. Negativity breeds more negativity (which is why I'm so glad of how my parents raised me). This ridiculous dismissal of the past and denial of the truth isn't helping anything.