Mystical Rationalizations

[greenpear]

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[eve11]

The sonic screwdriver trick in Day of the Doctor was not the same as the trick in The Big Bang. The Big Bang was a predestination paradox. There is no way that the screwdriver could appear in the past to be given to Rory, without it being given to Rory. It was truly a paradox in which the consequences of the future wrought themselves in the past, and there is no way for it to ever be "unraveled" into a straight line. It's a kind of grandfather paradox

[greenpear]

Okay, so you've busted my counterpoint (though I feel they're along similar lines).

But what did you think about the rationalizations themselves?

[eve11]

I came up with some of them on my own and had no problem with them... specifically how The End of Time and Day of the Doctor get resolved; I had no problem reconciling them. To me the Time Lock has always been something around the entirety of the War; it's not something that happens "at the end". The time lock is an impenetrable pipe around Gallifrey's history, and the doctor changes the cap on the end of it from "destroy" to "secret" away. And there is an extradimensional mishmash that my brain wants to sidestep when trying to understand the temporal logic of things.Like, have you ever read Edwin Abbot's "Flatland" (or "The Fourth Dimension" by Rudy Rucker)? Time travel requires a greater context in which to exist

[greenpear]

Thanks for the Your Friends Are Not Watching the Same Show You Are (And That's Okay) link, I've never read the before.

This sheds a good light on how I view a show differently than the person who wrote the article. And even how Beverly and I watch things differently. I'm told I'm not allowed to spout off plot holes I see when we're watching things cause all she wants to do is relax and enjoy the show.

I've read too much about narratives and structure that I'm ruined for life. I can't turn it off anymore. and when I read that long, long list of rationalizations, it seemed unbelievable how someone could just brush stuff aside so casually.

But these fans will not be disappointed when Moffat's master plan does not come to fruition as they will find a way to rationalize what appears on the screen...