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Nov 24, 2006 19:48

this is the question i've been turning over recently ( Read more... )

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mordicai November 25 2006, 03:22:07 UTC
determinism is old hat. if it is comforting? recent math makes it look like the bang/crunch theory is a myth for people who need a linear understanding of time. shit just keeps going. the rate of inertia exeeds the pull of gravity. & going. in ten to the 500,000th years all matter remaining will have decayed to the most stable nuclear element, iron. just iron & darkness & increasing distance. & going.

i really like the future.

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greybird November 25 2006, 21:47:07 UTC
give me your sources! last time i read through this stuff they were telling me the heroic story of Einstein's constants, which he added without a proper explanation and which specified that the universe would begin contracting at a certain point (once this mysterious force overwhelmed the very weakened gravity.)
Einstein's followers had taken out this force since it was added as a matter of faith (our genius was religious and believed god would not make something as inelegant as a universe that dissipated into nothing.) but "recent" data shows his calculations, with the constants, were more accurate predictors of our observations.
this was a nova episode somewhere in my high school past. what have they done since?

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mordicai November 26 2006, 02:51:21 UTC
i don't have so much a good source as i am sort of soaking in this brain i've got. anyhow, wikipedia has this to say "[R]ecent experimental evidence (namely the observation of distant supernovae as standard candles, and the well-resolved mapping of the cosmic microwave background) has�to considerable surprise�shown that the expansion of the universe is not being slowed down by gravity, but instead, accelerating, suggesting that the universe will not end with a Big Crunch, but will instead expand forever, though some scientists have contested this theory. (The evidence of an accelerating universe has been considered conclusive by most cosmologists since 2002.)"

anyhow, people like to idolize einstein one way or the other. he had kind of cool hair.

me, i like to keep my eye on vaccum energy states.

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greybird November 26 2006, 18:22:18 UTC
you can wikipedia "cosmological constant" and "cyclic universe" to get at what i was trying to wave my hand at. those articles lapse into jargon and you end up with a mouth full of sticks. for example: "...colliding branes are not understood by string theorists, and nobody knows if the scale invariant spectrum will be destroyed by the big crunch, or even what happens when two branes collide. Moreover, like cosmic inflation, while the general character of the forces (in the ekpyrotic scenario, a force between branes) required to create the vacuum fluctuations is known..."
however, as far as i can tell, my universe (circa 2002) is still in place on the internet.

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mordicai November 27 2006, 05:01:59 UTC
no, i knew what you were speaking of, intellegently & articulately. branes are a total bunch of bunk! most string theory can easily be summed up by going, "nice theory descartes, now show me some juice!"

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Irritating question. moments_away November 27 2006, 05:29:06 UTC
Does it matter?

Does it matter if it will happen again?

Or if it's only this once we get to experience
these objects, situations, pains and joys, doubts
and arrogances, fears and sins?

Does it matter why, or how?

I wouldn't want to come back here,
but if I did, I wouldn't know any better, so...

does it matter?

To come to the same point of questioning,
to respond the same way, every instance
existing without knowledge of countless
previous iterations...

Does it matter? A little different, exactly the same.

Moments away from another.

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Re: Irritating question. krypta November 28 2006, 07:07:50 UTC
Does determinism matter?
That question seems equally if not more difficult to answer than the original.

I might have misinterpreted your answer in which case you misinterpreted the entry. The entry began with "if".

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anonsequitur December 8 2006, 05:08:09 UTC
And then what happened?

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well... schimschone December 17 2006, 04:29:53 UTC
there is increasing evidence that big-bang theory is inconsistant with contemperary findings... on the other hand theres plasma-cosmology, which offers a more organic view of he universe... the big thing to remember is that all this stuff is modeling of a thing beyond our senses... its under constant conceptual evolution...

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