Its definitely more of an American stereotype to be honest? Though I'm sure soke people did do it. I'm just not sure it ever ended up across the pond snd so it's definitely one of those things lol
I have no idea where the milk and cookies thing would come from. I don't know of anyone who does that! The TV shows are also bizarre inclusions.
I put details in my work, (I mention real books/authors, and the Olympics, for instance) but they're details chosen with an eye to the time I've set the story in. It's a story that is intended to have an internal timeline, to be fixed within a specific period of time. There are many, many contexts in which you wouldn't want to do this, because it would have the effect (as you discovered!) of breaking a reader's suspension of disbelief.
That’s pretty bizarre...I had never heard of those shows and had to Google them as well. Considering those shows aired in the 2000’s, my guess is that the author might very well be young and just didn’t think it through for Hermione to even know those shows...in the 90’s. As for the milk and cookies? My kids love that as a treat. But for Severus to be sitting down to such? I think I would have to just move on to the next fic at that point.
I feel bad because I did move on, but I just couldn’t imagine Snape sitting down with ANYONE and tucking in to milk and cookies. But they did, and bless their little hearts. I’m sure someone with a chocolate and lactose kink will read the shit outta it.
OH my! I'm not familiar with either of those TV shows so I'm no help there, but I think both the shows and the "milk and cookies" might speak to a younger writer. Just out of curiosity, when were those two fics first posted?
I think 2009 maybe? I forget to look when things are posted. I’m not even really sure how I linked to them! So I’d say those shows were popular right when they wrote the story. :)
Nope. As a Brit of a certain age but with kids, I can say I have never heard of those shows, nor do I know if even kids do the milk and cookie thing, let alone adults.
Chronological mistakes certainly seem to mark someone's age. I find that some USAsians are unaware of the fact that things they take for granted have no significance in the wider world - I can remember the frustration of trying (with others) to to bring certain very popular UK TV shows to the attention of the compilers of the Lexicon, as there were very definite connections a Brit would be aware of, but they ignored them, yet in one place it had a reference to Gilligan's island, which has never aired over here to my knowledge and I only know of from US popular culture references to it elsewhere!
Oh what were the UK TV shows? We have so many UK shows shown here.
We had Gilligan Island here.... I’ve seen one rerun and the main guy was so damn annoying. We get really sporadic US shows, a lot never get a good hold but some inexplicably do. I present you with exhibit A “the Big Bang theory”. I apologise if you love that show...I just.... can’t deal with it.
In particular Porridge, which follows the life behind bars of a petty thief, Norman Stanley Fletcher (ring any bells? Mungdungus?) and Dad's Army, where a group of misfits train together as a protective force during wartime against the threat of hostilities reaching them (but of course has nooo parallels with Dumbledore's Army, does it :p).
These, of course, were extremly popular, long running shows that even sparked films at the time JKR (and myself, there being close in age) was growing up. Hell, even my kids are aware of them, though mainly Dad's Army due to some of the enduring catchphrases like 'They don't like it up'em' or a sardonic 'Stupid boy' that people still come out with today, despite most of the cast actually being dead now!
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Its definitely more of an American stereotype to be honest? Though I'm sure soke people did do it. I'm just not sure it ever ended up across the pond snd so it's definitely one of those things lol
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I put details in my work, (I mention real books/authors, and the Olympics, for instance) but they're details chosen with an eye to the time I've set the story in. It's a story that is intended to have an internal timeline, to be fixed within a specific period of time. There are many, many contexts in which you wouldn't want to do this, because it would have the effect (as you discovered!) of breaking a reader's suspension of disbelief.
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Oh yes I do like your details. For example, the way The Hive residents dress never seems stuck in any particular time zone.
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That’s pretty bizarre...I had never heard of those shows and had to Google them as well. Considering those shows aired in the 2000’s, my guess is that the author might very well be young and just didn’t think it through for Hermione to even know those shows...in the 90’s. As for the milk and cookies? My kids love that as a treat. But for Severus to be sitting down to such? I think I would have to just move on to the next fic at that point.
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Chronological mistakes certainly seem to mark someone's age. I find that some USAsians are unaware of the fact that things they take for granted have no significance in the wider world - I can remember the frustration of trying (with others) to to bring certain very popular UK TV shows to the attention of the compilers of the Lexicon, as there were very definite connections a Brit would be aware of, but they ignored them, yet in one place it had a reference to Gilligan's island, which has never aired over here to my knowledge and I only know of from US popular culture references to it elsewhere!
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We had Gilligan Island here.... I’ve seen one rerun and the main guy was so damn annoying. We get really sporadic US shows, a lot never get a good hold but some inexplicably do. I present you with exhibit A “the Big Bang theory”. I apologise if you love that show...I just.... can’t deal with it.
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These, of course, were extremly popular, long running shows that even sparked films at the time JKR (and myself, there being close in age) was growing up. Hell, even my kids are aware of them, though mainly Dad's Army due to some of the enduring catchphrases like 'They don't like it up'em' or a sardonic 'Stupid boy' that people still come out with today, despite most of the cast actually being dead now!
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Yes!!!!!
Wow.
Those were awesome shows too. My parents watched both of them.
I can’t believe it. I had no idea. Thank you!
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