Comments | grumpyolddog: You'll reap what you sow, put your face to the ground.

grumpyolddog

You'll reap what you sow, put your face to the ground.

Aug 09, 2011 11:44

If you've been paying attention recently, the economy collapsed because a lot of rich people made a mistake with your money (pension funds, etc) and then they used their influence with Government (which survives by stealing from you) to give an equal sum of money to them. Your money ( Read more... )

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lethargic_man August 9 2011, 12:10:44 UTC

That's all very well for you to say. What about the people living in the flats above the burned-out shops?

grumpyolddog August 9 2011, 13:14:08 UTC

Sooner or later (and it may be much later for some and much sooner for others) everyone has to choose where they stand.

I could say something trite like "sleep in an MP's second or third home", I suppose but I don't really have an answer.

All I can say is, the number of reposessed homes since the bank bailout makes those unfortunate souls look very few and far between and yet, who's the devil? Men in tracksuits.

vatine August 9 2011, 13:47:13 UTC

I can't say that I have an easy solution to any current problem, but I feel a solution is to be found somewhere in the swamp between "lock them all up" and "let it all burn" (and ideally not too close to either end of that swamp ( ... )

cream_t August 9 2011, 14:24:05 UTC

Even if it was righteous anger (which I do not believe), it is being directed at the wrong targets.

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megabitch August 9 2011, 15:08:03 UTC

I think the real motivations of a large number boil down to the sort of things said by the girls interviewed by the BBC - apparantly it was "great fun" and they "hope it happens again" and it's all about "showing the police... and the rich... oh, yeah, and the rich, them what own those businesses... that they can't stop us doing what we want." I don't see much political in that.

grumpyolddog August 9 2011, 15:59:13 UTC

Repost from elsewhere, but relevant.

I don't think there's a root to this beyond opportunistic thievery, to be honest. Much the way there wasn't much to the banking crisis beyond opportunistic thievery.

The difference is that in one case the Government gave them all the money they wanted and in the other, they put 16,000 police on the street to shoot at their citizens.

The REAL problem, the ROOT problem is that there are whole areas of London where the police don't go, except to occassionally shoot somebody random and innocent.

When the police don't go to your neighbourhood, you need somebody else to protect your shop or your business or your kids. And nature abhors a vacuum.

So you get organized crime which is well-armed and well-funded with drug money and you get a generation which simply has no experience of any law beyond that of the streets. Eventually, this is what happens.

The problem is prohibition. London is 1930's Chicago.