so karen said i was making it all up
1/21/2005 8:02:47 PM Mike: good morning
1/21/2005 8:02:57 PM Andrew: hey
1/21/2005 8:03:27 PM Mike: did you really bitch Karen out the other day?
1/21/2005 8:03:35 PM Andrew: mhm
1/21/2005 8:03:49 PM Mike: can't say I blame you, but why
1/21/2005 8:03:58 PM Mike: I really like to hear both sides of these things as often as I can
1/21/2005 8:04:28 PM Andrew: Well Im not the only person in the world who finds her "always right" attitude frustrating
1/21/2005 8:05:10 PM Mike: she's still not talking to me beyond what she needs to say
1/21/2005 8:05:38 PM Andrew: Well thats Karen
1/21/2005 8:05:58 PM Mike: it pisses me off that I can't just tell her to go fuck herself too
1/21/2005 8:06:04 PM Mike: I Want to really badly
1/21/2005 8:06:04 PM Andrew: Heh
1/21/2005 8:06:10 PM Andrew: Ive wanted to for a long time
1/21/2005 8:07:08 PM Mike: you know what's scary there are times that I look at her and I miss being with her though, like when she's playing her horn or being musical, or just totally enjoying what she's doing
1/21/2005 8:07:12 PM Mike: then I think about how bitchy she gets
1/21/2005 8:07:33 PM Andrew: Thats whats been going through my head for the past few days
1/21/2005 8:07:43 PM Andrew: She can be a total sweetheart sometimes
1/21/2005 8:08:01 PM Mike: and she's so cute, it's hard to believe that she can be such a bitch sometimes too
1/21/2005 8:08:07 PM Andrew: I mean, I fell for her for a reason
1/21/2005 8:08:13 PM Andrew: But yeah, she is also a giant bitch
1/21/2005 8:08:26 PM Mike: I never got that when we were dating though
1/21/2005 8:08:47 PM Andrew: I guess she broke up with you before you got it?
1/21/2005 8:09:02 PM Mike: and I asked her out once after that, and she said no
1/21/2005 8:09:14 PM Andrew: What really sickened me
1/21/2005 8:09:21 PM Andrew: Is she offered me sex if I went out with her again
1/21/2005 8:09:34 PM Andrew: Not in those words, but indirectly
1/21/2005 8:09:37 PM Mike: and I asked her out again, one morning after I woke up at her place, while we were still in bed, isn't that bed comfy by the way?, and she took a day to think and then said no
1/21/2005 8:09:42 PM Mike: how so?
1/21/2005 8:10:07 PM Andrew: Shes all like "You know Andrew, wed be sleeping together by now... why dont you take me back again?"
1/21/2005 8:10:12 PM Andrew: And some other stuff
1/21/2005 8:10:16 PM Andrew: Shebrought it up alot
1/21/2005 8:10:23 PM Mike: hmmm
1/21/2005 8:11:44 PM Mike: she's changed a lot ever since her birthday
1/21/2005 8:12:05 PM Andrew: Even since then?
1/21/2005 8:12:31 PM Mike: i mean she had changed before but since her birthday she's been even different
1/21/2005 8:13:06 PM Andrew: how so?
1/21/2005 8:13:34 PM Mike: she's just been bitchyer, and well sicker, but she's talking about getting drunk a lot more, and stuff, and I don't knowe
1/21/2005 8:14:04 PM Andrew: I hated her drinking more than anything, and how she lied about other stuff she would do with guys and all that, and she blamed me for it
1/21/2005 8:14:17 PM Andrew: Like its my fault she cheats on her boyfriends drunk
1/21/2005 8:14:21 PM Mike: lied about stuff she would do?
1/21/2005 8:14:28 PM Mike: she did stuff with other guys?
1/21/2005 8:14:35 PM Andrew: Not while dating me
1/21/2005 8:14:47 PM Mike: while dating me?
1/21/2005 8:14:58 PM Andrew: But every week something would slip and she would end up talking about a different guy she said nothing about before
1/21/2005 8:15:00 PM Andrew: And not that I know of
1/21/2005 8:15:12 PM Mike: okay good
1/21/2005 8:15:30 PM Mike: I mean I don't mind alcohol, but I don't drink alone, and I almost never drink in excess
1/21/2005 8:15:38 PM Mike: except on band trips:P
1/21/2005 8:15:48 PM Andrew: I hate drinking
1/21/2005 8:15:56 PM Andrew: Karen just... strenthened my hate for it
1/21/2005 8:16:05 PM Mike: why do you hate it?
1/21/2005 8:16:12 PM Andrew: First gf got raped drunk
1/21/2005 8:16:17 PM Andrew: Second was an acloholic
1/21/2005 8:16:21 PM Andrew: Karen almost was both
1/21/2005 8:16:52 PM Mike: wow, that's not a good record is it
1/21/2005 8:16:55 PM Andrew: Nope
1/21/2005 8:17:06 PM Andrew: Karen showed no sympathy
1/21/2005 8:17:13 PM Mike: I wish I could talk to her and she would listen to me, but if I got her into a position where she had to listen to me she wouldn't
1/21/2005 8:17:27 PM Andrew: She didnt listen to anyone
1/21/2005 8:17:33 PM Mike: I would you know use one of those hug emoticons, but that would be wierd:P
1/21/2005 8:17:33 PM Andrew: She lost friends over it
1/21/2005 8:17:44 PM Andrew: >.>
1/21/2005 8:17:59 PM Mike: she lost her best friend
1/21/2005 8:18:12 PM Andrew: Theyre friends again, apparently
1/21/2005 8:18:13 PM Mike: andrea is closer to me now then she was with karen
1/21/2005 8:18:19 PM Mike: since when?
1/21/2005 8:18:21 PM Andrew: Andreas freaking hot
1/21/2005 8:18:23 PM Andrew: Ummmm
1/21/2005 8:18:27 PM Andrew: SInce last night?
1/21/2005 8:18:29 PM Andrew: Or before
1/21/2005 8:18:37 PM Andrew: Not long ago
1/21/2005 8:18:45 PM Mike: hmmm, I'll talk to andrea, from what she told me she wasn't going to speak to her ever again
1/21/2005 8:18:53 PM Mike: andrea is hot and she's mad over her BF
1/21/2005 8:19:01 PM Mike: i asked her out about a month and a half ago, but she said no
1/21/2005 8:19:03 PM Andrew: Well, if theyre not friends anymore... er
1/21/2005 8:19:04 PM Mike: was close to saying yes
1/21/2005 8:19:10 PM Andrew: Heh
1/21/2005 8:19:29 PM Mike: andrea has told me things she says she's never told another guy, and some things she's never told anyone
1/21/2005 8:19:30 PM Andrew: Well, apparently the first time I saw her she said something to Karen like "if you dont want him Ill have him"
1/21/2005 8:21:08 PM Mike: First time I saw you I told her to break up with you, and I had good reasons, and she agreed with me
1/21/2005 8:21:20 PM Andrew: Whatd you say?
1/21/2005 8:22:30 PM Mike: she was having bad feelings, because she'd had bad experiences in ladner, and didn't want to be there much, and there were still things between me and her and stuff, and she told me that she was going to think about what I said and that I made good points and she made good points
1/21/2005 8:22:51 PM Andrew: WEll she bullshitted one of us
1/21/2005 8:22:53 PM Mike: don't get me wrong I gave her reasons to not break up with you too, that's my worst merit, I see everything from both sides
1/21/2005 8:23:08 PM Andrew: Devils advocate
1/21/2005 8:23:11 PM Andrew: Always fun to play
1/21/2005 8:23:14 PM Andrew: Especially with yourself
1/21/2005 8:23:15 PM Mike: no, i think she probably did think about what I said
1/21/2005 8:23:21 PM Mike: I hate that
1/21/2005 8:23:30 PM Andrew: Well she told ME she was absolutely disgusted with you
1/21/2005 8:23:32 PM Andrew: etc
1/21/2005 8:23:40 PM Mike: when?
1/21/2005 8:23:49 PM Andrew: She never didnt
1/21/2005 8:23:54 PM Andrew: Since before we dated
1/21/2005 8:24:01 PM Andrew: Moreso after I met you
1/21/2005 8:24:20 PM Mike: hmmm, could that have had something to do with the whole alisha thing
1/21/2005 8:24:30 PM Andrew: Whend you tell her?
1/21/2005 8:24:41 PM Mike: I thought you did
1/21/2005 8:24:50 PM Andrew: No, you did and then she asked me about it
1/21/2005 8:25:10 PM Mike: well it doesn't matter, niether girl is talking to me right now, so whatever
1/21/2005 8:25:32 PM Andrew: yeah
1/21/2005 8:25:40 PM Mike: if she was so disgusted with me, why were we dating for almosyt three months, and why did we seem to be alone with less clothes then is normal for wearing in public all the time
1/21/2005 8:25:43 PM Andrew: Karen talked about alot of stuff to everyone
1/21/2005 8:25:52 PM Andrew: She said under a month
1/21/2005 8:26:17 PM Mike: no, we dated for about a month and a half, and then we were basically dating except in name for like another month
1/21/2005 8:26:24 PM Andrew: ah
1/21/2005 8:27:10 PM Mike: I should talk to april
1/21/2005 8:27:39 PM Andrew: I dont even know what to think about any of them
1/21/2005 8:27:43 PM Andrew: Her friends, that is
1/21/2005 8:27:47 PM Andrew: She says everything about everyone
1/21/2005 8:28:09 PM Mike: what do you mean?
1/21/2005 8:28:23 PM Andrew: Well, I know right now that shes ranted about how horible I am to everyone she knows
1/21/2005 8:28:40 PM Mike: because I wouldn't call april a very close friend of myself, but in recent weeks she has been a very supportive person with some choices that I've made
1/21/2005 8:28:51 PM Mike: you've never been horrible to me, I was far worse to you then you were to me
1/21/2005 8:29:13 PM Andrew: Thats because I didnt blame you
1/21/2005 8:29:50 PM Mike: you know what, more then anything right now, I'm worried about her
1/21/2005 8:30:04 PM Andrew: Why?
1/21/2005 8:30:24 PM Andrew: Oh, and dont tell Karen anything
1/21/2005 8:31:14 PM Andrew: Especially large lifechanging things
1/21/2005 8:31:25 PM Andrew: Unless you want everyone to know
1/21/2005 8:31:45 PM Mike: why did she tell yowu hat i told her?
1/21/2005 8:31:53 PM Andrew: sex change?
1/21/2005 8:31:54 PM Andrew: yeah
1/21/2005 8:32:01 PM Andrew: And 2 others that I know of
1/21/2005 8:32:08 PM Mike: and she bitched at me for telling one of her friends what we did in bed
1/21/2005 8:32:08 PM Andrew: (and no, I dont care)
1/21/2005 8:32:21 PM Mike: so that's two people who I know know
1/21/2005 8:32:28 PM Andrew: Um, well me, April and Andrea
1/21/2005 8:32:31 PM Mike: and if you say two, I'm going to assume one of them is the same, and that makes three
1/21/2005 8:32:32 PM Andrew: Im not sure who youtold
1/21/2005 8:32:43 PM Andrew: I just know two other people know
1/21/2005 8:32:43 PM Mike: my recital be damned, she's hearing about this tomorrow
1/21/2005 8:32:45 PM Mike: so four
1/21/2005 8:32:50 PM Mike: I told andrea before I told karen though
1/21/2005 8:33:07 PM Mike: She's a Hypocrite
1/21/2005 8:33:08 PM Andrew: I mean, fuck, I can keep secrets from my gfs, it doesnt make you a bad bf if you can
1/21/2005 8:33:22 PM Andrew: The way I see if, if you werent going to tell me, she shouldnt have
1/21/2005 8:33:27 PM Mike: when did she tell you?
1/21/2005 8:33:51 PM Andrew: About when your MSN name as all "fuck it im bi"
1/21/2005 8:34:07 PM Mike: so before I told her friend what i told her
1/21/2005 8:34:20 PM Andrew: I guess
1/21/2005 8:34:20 PM Mike: yeah, she is going to get an earful from me tomorrow
1/21/2005 8:34:25 PM Andrew: As will I
1/21/2005 8:35:05 PM Mike: karen told me telling heather would mean april would find out, heather didn't tell anyone
1/21/2005 8:35:27 PM Andrew: I think shes the one who told Karen
1/21/2005 8:35:28 PM Andrew: I unno
1/21/2005 8:35:41 PM Andrew: I dont even know, nevermind what I say
1/21/2005 8:35:42 PM Mike: no, i told karen before I told heather
1/21/2005 8:35:48 PM Mike: and I told heather that karen knew
1/21/2005 8:36:04 PM Andrew: Okay, well I unno
1/21/2005 8:36:18 PM Andrew: What pissed me off is how Karen would try to make me feel bad becaue Ive done more with girls
1/21/2005 8:36:37 PM Andrew: But she lied about what she did
1/21/2005 8:36:44 PM Mike: I was content that tim knew, that she told him, because everyone at school knows now, I'm fine with people knowing
1/21/2005 8:37:05 PM Andrew: Ive decided that Karen is a self veryifying slut
1/21/2005 8:37:22 PM Mike: self verifying?
1/21/2005 8:37:44 PM Andrew: Like, shell do whatever she can with a guy as long as she can convince herself she isnt a slut
1/21/2005 8:39:52 PM "I kissed you in a style Clark Gable would admire, I thought it classic" [AZ+AL<3] Tyr Whiteclaw (Why do these things always happen to me?) I always get crazy girls
1/21/2005 8:40:03 PM Tyr Whiteclaw (Why do these things always happen to me?) "I kissed you in a style Clark Gable would admire, I thought it classic" [AZ+AL<3] what do you eman by self verifying
1/21/2005 8:40:03 PM "I kissed you in a style Clark Gable would admire, I thought it classic" [AZ+AL<3] Tyr Whiteclaw (Why do these things always happen to me?) I mean, I date rarely, and when I do, the girls crazy
1/21/2005 8:40:10 PM "I kissed you in a style Clark Gable would admire, I thought it classic" [AZ+AL<3] Tyr Whiteclaw (Why do these things always happen to me?) "Like, shell do whatever she can with a guy as long as she can convince herself she isnt a slut"
1/21/2005 8:40:49 PM Tyr Whiteclaw (Why do these things always happen to me?) "I kissed you in a style Clark Gable would admire, I thought it classic" [AZ+AL<3] yeah I can see that
1/21/2005 8:42:55 PM Tyr Whiteclaw (Why do these things always happen to me?) "I kissed you in a style Clark Gable would admire, I thought it classic" [AZ+AL<3] I wish I could say something now, but she's either offline or has all my accounts blocked, and if I call her she can hang up, I want to be able to not have that happen
1/21/2005 8:43:14 PM "I kissed you in a style Clark Gable would admire, I thought it classic" [AZ+AL<3] Tyr Whiteclaw (Why do these things always happen to me?) Blocked
1/21/2005 8:43:28 PM Tyr Whiteclaw (Why do these things always happen to me?) "I kissed you in a style Clark Gable would admire, I thought it classic" [AZ+AL<3] is she online?
1/21/2005 8:43:35 PM "I kissed you in a style Clark Gable would admire, I thought it classic" [AZ+AL<3] Tyr Whiteclaw (Why do these things always happen to me?) mhm
1/21/2005 8:43:39 PM Tyr Whiteclaw (Why do these things always happen to me?) "I kissed you in a style Clark Gable would admire, I thought it classic" [AZ+AL<3] because she had left my one account that I never use unblocked
1/21/2005 8:43:45 PM Tyr Whiteclaw (Why do these things always happen to me?) "I kissed you in a style Clark Gable would admire, I thought it classic" [AZ+AL<3] yeah, I figured
1/21/2005 8:44:00 PM Tyr Whiteclaw (Why do these things always happen to me?) "I kissed you in a style Clark Gable would admire, I thought it classic" [AZ+AL<3] when she told you how did she tell you?
1/21/2005 8:44:19 PM "I kissed you in a style Clark Gable would admire, I thought it classic" [AZ+AL<3] Tyr Whiteclaw (Why do these things always happen to me?) About?
1/21/2005 8:44:26 PM Tyr Whiteclaw (Why do these things always happen to me?) "I kissed you in a style Clark Gable would admire, I thought it classic" [AZ+AL<3] what do you think
1/21/2005 8:45:35 PM "I kissed you in a style Clark Gable would admire, I thought it classic" [AZ+AL<3] Tyr Whiteclaw (Why do these things always happen to me?) Something like "mike told whoever that whatever happened but we all know she cant keep her mouth shut, you know how mikes msn is all like im bi and stuff well this is what hes doing"
1/21/2005 8:46:09 PM Tyr Whiteclaw (Why do these things always happen to me?) "I kissed you in a style Clark Gable would admire, I thought it classic" [AZ+AL<3] but was it in a nasty way, or like what
1/21/2005 8:46:15 PM "I kissed you in a style Clark Gable would admire, I thought it classic" [AZ+AL<3] Tyr Whiteclaw (Why do these things always happen to me?) Incredibly nasty
1/21/2005 8:47:18 PM Tyr Whiteclaw (Why do these things always happen to me?) "I kissed you in a style Clark Gable would admire, I thought it classic" [AZ+AL<3] okay now that I know that you know, you're better off adding my other account too, 'm on that more now
1/21/2005 8:47:24 PM Tyr Whiteclaw (Why do these things always happen to me?) "I kissed you in a style Clark Gable would admire, I thought it classic" [AZ+AL<3] nwalya_dark_elf@hotmail.com
1/21/2005 8:47:53 PM "I kissed you in a style Clark Gable would admire, I thought it classic" [AZ+AL<3] Tyr Whiteclaw (Why do these things always happen to me?) Whats the nwalya mean?
1/21/2005 8:48:13 PM Tyr Whiteclaw (Why do these things always happen to me?) "I kissed you in a style Clark Gable would admire, I thought it classic" [AZ+AL<3] ummm, evil, pain, suffering, I think it was pain
1/21/2005 8:48:13 PM "I kissed you in a style Clark Gable would admire, I thought it classic" [AZ+AL<3] Tyr Whiteclaw (Why do these things always happen to me?) Did you use that elf translator?
1/21/2005 8:48:16 PM "I kissed you in a style Clark Gable would admire, I thought it classic" [AZ+AL<3] Tyr Whiteclaw (Why do these things always happen to me?) ah