My commentary on MN's proposed voter ID amendment

Sep 11, 2012 17:25

Fair warning, if you're having a bad day: it brought the racists out of the woodwork.

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2012/09/11/haddayr/

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capriuni September 12 2012, 01:13:39 UTC
Thank you for the warning -- I avoided the comments.

And thank you for saying this. The burden on the disabled, in particular, is often forgotten about in these debates (you already know this, of course.)

Sigh.

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jjhoutman September 12 2012, 12:00:50 UTC
But they're very polite, Miss Woods.

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tough questions ccjohn September 12 2012, 20:52:50 UTC
I'll read the comments. Haddayr I like how you stick to the guts of it. The first part of voting's when you put your shoes on. Like that. "Beer is not a constitutional right," great twist.

Who has the right to vote? First it was "white guys who owned property," then "also black males," then "women," then "age 21, then "age 18." We've just about admitted it: the right to vote is a human right. It can't be taken away. If anyone's kept from voting, denied her right to vote, no one's vote is safe.

This is why requiring a state-issued ID for people to vote is impossible. It's a contradiction. When we vote, we're deciding if incumbents get to stay in office. The tendency of all government would be to rig the game so they don't lose. No one's less impartial about certifying voters than the Government, that's why Selma happened.

I agree we have to be sure some groups of voters aren't kept from the polls. History's shown that's happened. I also agree unless we make sure everyone is able to vote, our elections are not ( ... )

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jamiam September 12 2012, 21:13:52 UTC
Oh my fucking god. I just glanced at them, and oh my fucking god.

(And none of them are interacting with the argument that it's not needed, that fraud is a tiny fraction of a percent. All of them are just complaining about poor people, claiming they're lazy.)

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Voter IDs ext_1482769 November 6 2012, 22:32:41 UTC
I am not affiliated with any party or organization. In fact I find myself quite liberal in many topics. (Gay rights, women's choice, and others ( ... )

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Re: Voter IDs haddayr November 7 2012, 18:02:37 UTC
I explained how it can be quite a big deal to get a valid ID, for all sorts of reasons, in my article. If you still don't understand how it's a big deal after reading about people with no birth certificates, people with no transportation, and people with severe mobility issues, I really can't help you.

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Re: Voter IDs ext_1482769 November 7 2012, 18:24:03 UTC
I guess I just wonder if an "ID" isn't the way to go... What is the easiest and most accurate way to let people vote that insures they are a US citizen, aren't dead, and are only voting one time?

I don't care who wins I just want it to be fair.

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