MoL Changes

Jan 11, 2009 12:51

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At December Unevent changes to the following kingdom law were announced.

12.3 Officer Requirements

To maintain full status, a branch must have a designated seneschal and exchequer, and either a herald, marshal, or a minister of arts and sciences. All of these officers must be an Associate or above member of the SCA, Inc., and have ( Read more... )

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dante_di_pietro January 11 2009, 18:49:40 UTC
I read it as: "Branches do not need an MOL to maintain full status. Branches do need an MOL to have an event with fighting at it. Marshals can be out-of-group, but not MOLs."

I would think that would more or less force each group to have its own MOL, since fighting is an event mainstay. I think it's a little odd and somewhat inconsistent in its logic, but it doesn't sound any alarms. Am I missing something?

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dreadbaron January 12 2009, 16:33:00 UTC
Interesting. I always thought that's how it was (probably from my Ansteorran roots). There were several groups that had no fighting people and so had no marshals, no MOLs, etc.

In fact, I think the old rule was you had to have a seneschal and either a marshal or an A&S minister.

Of course, in the days of my roots, there wasn't anything like a formalized authorization system, either. The MOLs ran tourneys, but didn't do any other paperwork.

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soucyn May 19 2009, 14:02:24 UTC
Hello. It's Girard, I just found you (didn't realize you had an LJ).

To tell you the truth, I'm one of the people who asked for this change. I had sent a note to William as Kingdom Seneschal and then Prince Jason.

The reasoning behind my request is based on Windmasters'. We've got 4 cantons all bunched up on one another, another 45 minutes down the road, and the Baronial organization on top of that. Every time a branch has to have an officer to do something, that's 6 people we have to find in Windmasters.

I couldn't find a reason why a canton couldn't borrow the baronial MOL for an event. I think we only had about 4 warranted MOL's in the entire Barony as it was. If you can import a marshal, why not the MOL as well?

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offical comments halowenslut May 19 2009, 21:42:54 UTC
I was more arguing that people needed to make their feelings good or bad known in an official manner. I felt it was wrong for people to whine and bitch about it but not bother to offer official comments or suggestions for a good middle ground. For instance, one of my suggestions was that baronies, strongholds, and colleges (independent groups) should all be required to have an mol while the cantons and equivalents could be covered by the baronial mol.

The biggest worry from the mol point of view is that most mols become mols because their group needed one to hold events. Removing the requirement entirely meant removing the incentive.

Happy to talk about this more in person. Mostly I just wanted people to "peer up".

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