Comments | haruhiko: "One Killer Killing Another"

haruhiko

"One Killer Killing Another"

May 02, 2011 10:55

In the past four weeks I've been involved in four protest actions in my free time and so I've had little time to actually sit down and discuss politics lately. There's been a lot I've wanted to say re. Libya, Obama's approval of the use of predator drones in highly built-up civilian areas, etc., AND the recent protests Obama had to face when he ( Read more... )

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bmh4d0k3n May 2 2011, 22:18:58 UTC

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haruhiko May 3 2011, 04:29:18 UTC

What's really disgusting about the party attitude is: How does the death of OBL solve anything for the loves ones of those killed in 9/11 ( ... )

bmh4d0k3n May 3 2011, 21:45:56 UTC

Ugh, and I am now offically >a href="http://gawker.com/#!5797950/jon-stewart-celebrates-the-death-of-osama-bin-laden">over Jon Stewart. Just revolting. It's this kind of knee-jerk response that has led to so much trouble in the Middle East already. He acknowledges that the killing is symbolic, and doesn't see the problem.

haruhiko May 3 2011, 22:47:22 UTC

Gürrrrrrrl only just now? XD Lol seriously though, that is a pretty gross quote. I have no patience for people like him who keep saying, "THIS IS CLOSE TO ME SO YOU CAN'T JUDGE ME FOR HOW I GRIEVE" or "HDU CRITICIZE THE WAY VICTIMS CELEBRATE ( ... )

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doe_witch May 3 2011, 03:31:39 UTC

I think I'm going to be over here and not in _p where this also got posted, because the general reaction to it so far is atrociously ignorant. I can't believe so many people don't understand the difference between "not complaining about a relatively terrible person being dead" and "actively rejoicing at their demise." But then, this is Amurrika.

haruhiko May 3 2011, 04:13:44 UTC

Lmao I checked _P for the first time in ages to see (and YAY 'cause I'm glad DN! stuff is being posted in that comm) and oh LAWD those comments. XDDDDDD I like how one person is all pooh-poohing the fact that Allan Nairn is "just" some armchair pundit in a studio. Anyone who thinks Nairn is just a know-nothing pundit has no fucking clue about his history of on-the-ground reporting on US foreign policy and our actions on/in other countries. He's been doing this for decades, knows his shit back to front, and called out Kissinger to his face in a really large press conference years ago. The man is a fucking BAMF, not some dumbass Fox/CNN pundit ( ... )

haruhiko May 3 2011, 04:18:06 UTC

I can't believe so many people don't understand the difference between "not complaining about a relatively terrible person being dead" and "actively rejoicing at their demise."

For serious. Just because I'm not happy about a death or about OBL being killed (mainly because it enhances his martyr status and because I believe he should have been captured alive and sent to the ICC a la Milosevic), it does NOT mean I'm a ~traitor who is sorry to see him go~.

I mean it reminds me of the days after 9/11, when even the most progressive of mainstream progressives were all for handing Bush massive increases in executive power in order to go to war in Afghanistan and supporting the Patriot Act despite some token grumbling. There are some events which will cause even the staunchest self-described liberals to abandon their critical thinking in favor of some hardcore jingoistic mindless groupthink.

bmh4d0k3n May 3 2011, 20:45:44 UTC

Oh lerd, the post of this on ontd_p is so stupid. Do they care that little about collateral damage? Apparently.

gnat May 3 2011, 16:10:58 UTC

I don't think there really is any appropriate way to 'celebrate', but an event such as bin Laden's death/assassination is not carte blanche to go off the hook.

I guess I'm lenient to the crowds of college kids in front of the White House because they were just children when 9/11 happened. Their context of the situation is so different than all the other insensitive brutes who are cracking open a beer and spilling it all over their flag tees.

And after almost 10 years, what is there left to celebrate?
That we have spent innumerable resources in the capture for one man at the expense of our own well-being and growth?
That one man has forever changed the landscape of travel, of security, of diplomacy?
That even as we have been closing in on a "terrorist mastermind" we have barely made a dent in the inequalities of this country and have in fact used the acts of 9/11 to divide the very fabric of our society?

SMDH

gnat May 3 2011, 16:12:52 UTC

And repost :)