on the hunger games

May 24, 2011 14:53

hey lj I know I've been neglecting you but I have a lot of (too many) feelings now that I've finished Mockingjay and nowhere else to put them, so I'm leaving them here for my OCD purposes.  Also, just noticing: I think I have this odd tendency to have this sort of apologetic tone whenever I talk about stuff I'm interested in and care about and I ( Read more... )

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lunylucy May 24 2011, 23:37:59 UTC
The Hollywood comments makes me wonder if we'll actually get that in the movie. Certainly there shouldn't be any triumph in the killings of the first movie, but I bet they'll add that certain REBELLION, FUCK YEAH flair in MJ.

***Collins won, but THAT'S NOT THE POINT. Man, these books really did a number on you. I think I was more upset/angry than traumatized/depressed. I wonder if it had anything to do with me "reading" them through the audiobooks only.

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hassibah May 25 2011, 01:33:44 UTC
I was thinking that too with the movie. I mean if they changed the ending of fight club and made it more "uplifting" I could totally see them just cutting the movie off after Coin was shot(that would actually be pretty badass.) BUT then HOW CAN WE KNOW WHO SHE CHOOSES?!?! Not that it matters to me cause the Katniss/Johanna friendship is obviously the greatest thing ever put on paper, but I guess shipping wars could just keep going for decades, so that's a plus.
I wouldn't be that surprised if they cut down on all the heavy drugging and self destructiveness of the last book in general. That's if they get to a third movie, if the first needs to make enough money first ( ... )

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lunylucy May 25 2011, 01:57:58 UTC
I veeeery much doubt they would end with shooting Coin, but I wouldn't be surprised if they added something where Katniss gets to (gasp!) justify her actions/defend herself, lending to one of her famed improvised speeches that will maybe help people recognize oppression and bad government in general, not just when it looks like a snake and makes a game of children killing each other? I'm sure they'll also do the epilogue and actually seeing Katniss and Peeta with their kids in a nice little meadow will be better than just reading about it from a (forever) broken person's POV.

Yea, angst is good but I think art is best when it takes the harshness of life and helps you deal with it instead of just dashing it out. (this is why I love the "Vincent and the Doctor" episode so much, it's all in that speech about Vincent using his anguish to create beauty and pile of good things and TEARS FOREVER YET ALSO HAPPY TEARS I AM RAMBLING NOW). HP does it brilliantly (and not just within the story itself- JKR also used her depression and the loss of ( ... )

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hassibah May 25 2011, 02:19:06 UTC
Haha now that I've brought it up I've got a bad feeling the movie's going to be like 90% love triangle and 10% failed war-on-terror allegory.

Yeah, like I said usually when movies try this hard to be depressing/fucked up I just think they're bad. I wonder if Collins saw PTSD first-hand with her dad because that'd explain a lot: it seemed so important to her to get that kind of misery across and for people to really feel it. Plot-wise the book definitely fits with a lot of the cliches of war movies more than YA adventure fic, people falling apart/becoming monsters as a social commentary. At least the kind of war books I read.

I definitely take the HP approach, ALL the piles of things are a part of life, to recognize the good things are there isn't sugarcoating, that's what life is.
AND HARRY POTTER IS REAL LIFE I WON'T HEAR ANY DISSENTING VIEWS.
Thanks<3

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