Comments | havenne: Gathering up the threads

havenne

Gathering up the threads

Feb 17, 2008 10:35

If you sat down to read 'Green Witchcraft' you might not go to the same place as I do; you might even wonder how I connected my dots. The next thing one might expect me to write would be to offer some sort of qualifying statement about your interpretation is as valid as mine, which brings to an important point: I discussed briefly, in a ( Read more... )

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seaivy February 18 2008, 14:31:03 UTC

welcome sister to being a free - spirit, entirely self defined.
Blessings

havenne February 18 2008, 23:37:06 UTC

I think I have reached the point of leaving 'definition' and am eschewing labels, all but 'pagan', maybe. This place of freedom involves simply saying 'I am' and that is enough.
Travel in peace.

dragonmyass February 18 2008, 15:50:21 UTC

Perhaps one might ponder about the followers in addition to the leaders. Why do people continue to follow a group or leader instead of just going it alone? What attracts these people to the leader/group? Is there something lacking in their own life? Are they afraid of doing something wrong, not knowing what to do, of being laughed at/ridiculed by others who "know more"? Are they just unwilling to do anything on their own and need to be involved in a group - safety in numbers.

RE: your problem child. We all have points where we change - one day something just suddenly dawns on us and we're different from that point. It can be for the good or bad. We can try and help/change someone, but it is ultimately up to them to do the work and no matter how much we try, they continue to stick to their path despite it being dangerous and destructive.

havenne February 18 2008, 23:45:24 UTC

You know, in all our discussions about 'leadership' we haven't stopped to consider the 'follower.' Maybe I should give that some thought. I'm betting that most people are afraid of being alone thus won't 'go it alone.' There's a certain herd mentality out there in large numbers. Following a tradition that someone else has laid down, in essence following a path already trod, gives a certain automatic 'rightness.' So, I think you're right on all points.

Oh, yes, my problem child. Actually I hope never to find out what his issue really was. He was so stressful to deal with and took such effort to attempt to supervise that I am breathing a tremendous sigh of relief that he's gone. I have dropped two pounds this week on the release of stress, alone.
We were so afraid, given the email he was sending to everyone in upper management in the company, that he was going to come back to work with weapons. The building doors were locked for much of the week during working hours! That kind of fear is not comfortable.

drachenfang February 18 2008, 19:50:01 UTC

Well, there's not much to say. I'm glad there's no fires in the engine room and that the evolving fuel source is burning well. :)

havenne February 18 2008, 23:48:25 UTC

And how's my favorite giant?
The flame is burning brightly and there is peace within. The wolves race through the woods and are so much easier to find again. My ritual experience of this past week, while being startling and unexpected, is something I will never forget.
I could wish for you to have such a moment of deific contact - they are only a step away.

drachenfang February 20 2008, 07:02:07 UTC

I'm very well these days. Pursuing a real life path has been miraculously theraputic and the prospect of a job in which I will manage to have a tangible impression on the world thrills me.
For my own part I've been in spriritual hibernation. It's winter and there's not much to be done along the lines of diety. Besides, I tend to feel there's not much to 'do' at any point as far as the gods are concerned. I'd like to write another few short stories at length and doubtless I will someday. But yeah... ducky. Living life and loving it.

aloysiusweasley February 18 2008, 22:29:16 UTC

HA! What a snowstorm with ex-dramarific employee! XD

Poor plants - I can't believe an African violet actually died! :O

I'm totally confused by what you think of Howl. :*(

havenne February 18 2008, 23:55:59 UTC

I can't say that my life is always dull ( ... )

aloysiusweasley February 19 2008, 00:25:41 UTC

I know...but still! You had an African violet that actually died?! So wierd!! *senses opening space-time rift* O_o

Yay! Yea, Howl isn't quite one of those movies where there's always something different going on in the backround every time you see it, but close. I'm kinda jaded, since I've literally seen it over 50 times. XD ( ... )

Those of us who are strong-willed.... bastkitty February 18 2008, 22:39:46 UTC

Seem to have a hard time mindlessly following any religious grand poobah's decrees, no matter what religion they might be espousing.

I theorize that it has to do with the ability to think for one's self. Most people can't, or simply do not want to, in my experience. They aren't interested in forming deep thoughts on their own, they'd rather just have someone spoon feed regurgitated ideas to them. Blech.

~S

Re: Those of us who are strong-willed.... havenne February 19 2008, 00:00:02 UTC

I think M. said some of the same things above. Yeah, we're a feisty bunch, aren't we? We've been to see the poobah, asked all the wrong questions, didn't get answers and came home again.
Yes, I have lots of deep thoughts - took up keeping a little notebook just so I could grab ideas as they went by so I wouldn't forget them. Now to find the time to sit and write....
Mostly I'm focusing on formulating good questions and assessing my comfort level in 'not knowing.'