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May 19, 2014 20:08


in which I eeyore about the beach scene (sorry)


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mockingjay, the hunger games, catching fire, peeta mellark, katniss everdeen, ponderings

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shesasurvivor May 20 2014, 02:05:25 UTC
What also gets me about this scene, and the parts in Mockingjay after, is that Katniss goes on to say (during the scenes with Buttercup after the bombing) that if Peeta were to die, she would mourn him but eventually move on. That's not exactly being "broken beyond repair," and it kind of always bothered me that she would go on to say such a thing because it feels like flip-flopping. That said, I think it ties into that quote you pulled from the interview with Ceasar about the world narrowing to the arena, combined to the comment she makes just before being reconciled with Peeta about the kisses she never let herself think about until now.

Which means, we have to remember that these poor kids are emotional wrecks by the beech scene. I think Katniss is actually right about needing Peeta in that he is literally the only person who understands what she's going through. Yes, the other victors understand what it's like to survive the Games, but not even Haymitch knows what it's actually like to have survived with another tribute from the ( ... )

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hawthornhedge May 20 2014, 03:23:11 UTC

Oh, yes, I agree about Katniss and Peeta being under nearly unendurable pressure in the Quell, especially since they're no longer as naive as they were for their first games. Peeta directly acknowledges that it's a possibility that *neither* of them might be allowed to survive, and that Katniss could die is something that he didn't even really allow himself to consider in their first arena. So for him to basically articulate that possibly is another sign of the tremendous pressure and stress of the situation.

I think that basically this line/scene to me is the Everlark equivalent of what the "you could live a hundred lifetimes and not deserve him" (pp) line is to an appreciation of Peeta Mellark's character. I guess (maybe) I could see how people latch on to these quotes, but, to me, there are just other scenes/lines that I personally prefer. To me, it is a very Romeo/Juliet kind of love expressed in this scene, whereas in others you can better see the strength of their connection.

Katniss's reaction in Mockingjay is just so ( ... )

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shesasurvivor May 20 2014, 04:32:27 UTC
I have long felt that a major theme of their relationship is supposed to be what a real relationship here in the real world is supposed to be like, compared to the ridiculous portrayals of them we see in the media. I know that when I was 16/17, I was struggling with the realities of what they're like versus what romantic movies show them to be, and I think that's probably a pretty common thing amongst teenagers. It's interesting that you (and the books, obviously) mention Romeo and Juliet, because I was always taught that this is also a theme in that play as well -- how could Romeo and Juliet truly love each other after knowing each other for a day? We see similar issues with Peeta and his thinking Katniss would be as in love with him as he thinks he is with her after a couple if days. When the fact if the matter is, while I do think SC hints that Katniss has a repressed attraction or crush on Peeta before they're reaped, the feelings can only really start coming out once she gets to know him and knows what he's actually like and what ( ... )

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hawthornhedge May 20 2014, 10:53:28 UTC

One afternoon Peeta stops shading a blossom and looks up so suddenly that I start, as though I were caught spying on him, which in a strange way maybe I was. But he only says, “You know, I think this is the first time we’ve ever done anything normal together.”

“Yeah,” I agree. Our whole relationship has been tainted by the Games. Normal was never a part of it. “Nice for a change.”
(p. 162; Kindle Edition).

Yes, I agree with idea that once Katniss starts to get to know Peeta, her feelings do evolve at a reasonable pace, all things considered. And that's part of the thing: I'm not into Everlark because "aw, he had a crush on her since he was five" and any of the other rom com tropes that Collins deliberately invokes. No, I like them because they do bring a peace and steadiness to each other. Katniss talks a lot about what Peeta does for her, but clearly she had a reciprocal effect on Peeta, if they can somehow manage to joke and have tender moments while staying alive as well as their few domestic scenes like the above.

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