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xxloveispainxx in hbp_discuss

Lord of the Rings?

Aug 17, 2005 09:57

I'm going to write this entry assuming you guys are some-what familar with the LOTR story.

I was recently re-reading the Lord of the Rings Trilogy when I noticed something that suggests that JKR probably didn't make horcruxes up. In LOTR, it is widely known that Sauron couldn't be completely killed because his life was bound to the ring. So the ( Read more... )

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umustbeaweasley August 17 2005, 15:49:03 UTC

I never thought of any of that!
Being an avid Harry Potter/LOTR fan, I love to find connections between the two, it just makes it more exciting!
I think your first theory is the most interesting, for the ring is exactly like a horcrux because Tolkien reveals that Sauron put some of his soul into the ring. Although I do believe that Dumbledore is truly dead, I agree that he and Gandalf had the same views about death; that one should not be afraid, and that it truly is a great adventure.

cheers ;)

xxloveispainxx August 17 2005, 20:00:05 UTC

Thanks, it def. is exciting to find connections :)

jenniferjayde August 17 2005, 17:59:35 UTC

Oh there are SO MANY similarities. I hate the people that are "Harry Potter OR Lord of the Rings" and say you can't like both. I love both stories.

xxloveispainxx August 17 2005, 19:59:14 UTC

That's so dumb! Yeah they're both fantasy stories, but they're both milestones in their own right. You can't really compare them and say one is better than the other. That really bugs me!

zanra August 18 2005, 02:38:52 UTC

Alright! Time to break my silence in the issue. ^_^

I must say that at first, I was one of those OMG JKR GOT SO MANY IDEAS FROM TOLKIEN, but, as I learned, this happens all the time in literature.

I just read Out of the Silent Planet, by C.S. Lewis, followed by The Wind in the Door by Madeleine L'Engle, the companion to A Wrinkle in Time. What I found was that these books are incredibly similiar, and while it is clear that L'Engle most certainly read C.S. Lewis and was GREATLY influenced by him (As her books came about twenty years after), the two are both their own works of art, and great themes in literature have most probably been handed down from author to author since Homer, and shaped and sculpted as time goes on without any real injustice. (Usually.) This is just one of the norms in story telling.

For example: where do we get our stories and ideas in the first place? People, and real events. All are stories are already based on our perceptions of the world. They are based on mythology. On history. And, in many cases, on ( ... )

zanra August 18 2005, 02:39:59 UTC

A Wind in the Door.*

Sorry about that.

julyia21 August 25 2005, 02:36:58 UTC

but Gandalf says to PIppin at some point that death is not something to be feared, just another path, which is one we all must choose at some point. Sounds like Dumbledore saying death is just the next great adventure?

JK Rowling took a lot of stuff from LOTR, from the giant spiders, to Grimawormtounge and wormtail. She once said in an interview that Tolkien was one of her heroes, or something like that.

Im hoping he will come back like Gandalf did, though.

wiggidywhackyo June 23 2006, 13:09:45 UTC

Yeah, that makes sense. I think http://www.dumbledoresnotdead.com/ makes a lot of sense too... but the person that created that website is probably just reading too much into things