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Oct 11, 2004 15:47

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shockingalberto October 11 2004, 23:31:57 UTC
Whoa, whoa, whoa.

I don't want to get in to a whole religious debate here, but I'm hoping I misread that. Atheism is wrong?

I'm a prety proud Atheist. It's just another belief, or lack of beliefs. Same as Islam, Judaism, Christianity. Atheists disagree with modern religion. We're not wrong, just like you can't be wrong if you dislike Chocolate Cake.

I probably misread it, but man, please tell me you didn't mean that.

-- Imran

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heelsoverhead4u October 12 2004, 12:41:10 UTC
"I'm a prety proud Atheist..."
If its okay to ask...What exactley are you proud of?
I'm not trying to argue or anything of the sort. I just want to try to see it from your point of view.

and...its hard to say but, yes I think it [atheism] is wrong because I believe that Jesus lived on this earth and did all the things that the bible says...and I believe that he is the only way to gain eternal life and to be in heaven.

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shockingalberto October 12 2004, 16:19:52 UTC
If its okay to ask...What exactley are you proud of?

Sure.

Though, just to be facetious, I'll answer this with a question. What makes you proud to be a Christian? What makes the person down the street proud to be Jewish? It's just a different system of beliefs. In my case, it's the active belief that the modern major religions are wrong.

and...its hard to say but, yes I think it [atheism] is wrong because I believe that Jesus lived on this earth and did all the things that the bible says...and I believe that he is the only way to gain eternal life and to be in heaven.

Alright. Would you go up to a Muslim and say "Your religion is wrong?"

-- Imran

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heelsoverhead4u October 12 2004, 18:28:01 UTC
there is no other way to say this than to be blunt...well, yes.
(i would not go up to them and say that, because it goes back to the respect issue, but yes i believe what is real and Jesus is real in me.)

What makes me proud to be a Christian?
* Knowing that Jesus died on the cross for my sins
* Having a relationship with Christ
* Seeing him and his ways reflected in myself and others
* He answers prayers
* Witnessing miracles
* The pure joy I get from his love
* Knowing that he is my father in heaven
* Knowing that I am protected
I could go on for days...
Did you answer my question from earlier? A question can't answer a question...if its okay i'd like to know.
-me-

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crzyashykitty October 12 2004, 02:54:23 UTC
there are plenty of things not in the bible. a good bit of the bible was written by man and man is inherently selfish. he put what he wanted into the bible. haven't you heard of the lost books? they were kept out because the first christian pastors. i don't read the bible, but i believe in god and i pray. i may not be the most perfect "conventional" christian, but that makes me no less a person. you can't base someone's life and personality on religion. and though you didn't directly, no human has the right to condemn another. not even a christian condemning an atheist. what was it? there's some bible quote like "he who has the least sin throw the first stone"? pah, i don't remember.

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heelsoverhead4u October 12 2004, 12:37:07 UTC
I wasn't condemning him at all...it just makes me sad to see people that believe not in God, Jesus- the way. I mean this kid was talking about things I had never heard of. something about satan and rectal organs...it was just ew. how he believed that the world was flat...etc. just stuff that didn't make sense.

I respect that people have their own beliefs, its just that mine are different so...its hard. It just made me so frustrated when he was defying God in front of me and, I just couldn't hold it so i had to vent somewhere. im not saying that him believing in whatever he does, is right...yet, that is because I believe that Jesus is the life and the way.
I don't want to make anyone feel bad or "condemn" them in any way, but its just, that urked me.
<3 you and Imran
me

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partyonmccarty October 13 2004, 15:40:41 UTC
Hey ( ... )

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christianchic16 October 12 2004, 15:07:45 UTC
Ashley, I totally agree with you. Everyone has been questioning what you said and I wanna let you know I respect it alot. I'm so proud and in awe of you and how far you've come over the past couple years. Christ's light is shining through your eyes and I can tell you want nothing more than to share this wonderful gift you've been given. Just remember, you cant expect the world to live like the saved... because they're not yet. I do pray to God, though, we can reach out in love and let them discover what we so undeservingly have received.

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heelsoverhead4u October 12 2004, 18:19:52 UTC
does that stick in your mind too?? I just remember kevin's words every once in a while, they keep running through my head like a scrolling bulletin:

"You can't expect people to act like christians, if they aren't christians."
Thank you for your support Ashton <333. I was looking up at my wall the other day...yea the one that still has those signs (that HAVEN'T been changed, mind you, since the 7th grade!!!) on the wall. I was just looking and I saw one you made me "I can do all things through Him, who gives me strength." Phillipians 4:12
All those signs payed off huh <333333
me

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partyonmccarty October 13 2004, 15:18:38 UTC
ash,
this is something that i never know what to say to because people dont understand that as christians we are called not only to LIVE IN Him but do as he did( i.e. spreading the TRUTH). What the world doesnt understand is that in no way are we condemning(at least the true christians who have their hearts in the right place) non-christians but rather that we KNOW in our deepest heart of hearts that what we beleive is right (because of the overwhelming amounts of evidence) and we are just so hyped up on God's undeniable love we just want others to realize and have what we have. it isnt a game it is a COMPASSION that leads us to witness to the people we care about

with Him---mccarty

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heelsoverhead4u October 13 2004, 18:41:13 UTC
thank you. i admire you so much...more than you know.
I have an idea to throw out there. its exciting! ill tell you about it tomorrow, i've talked to kevin about it already
<3 in christ
me

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