Rewatch S6: My Heart Will Go On (6x17)

[hells_half_acre]

Ok! Back to funny...

More complicated clothes in this one. Sam has a new plaid shirt (bless the boy, but I am running out of plaid shirt descriptions.)

Anyway, let's get started...

Comments

[khek]

I think the female characters in Supernatural are very strong...even the ones who die in the opening credits. They may be wearing less than the males, but they're out there fighting just as hard

[hells_half_acre]

They may be wearing less than the males, but they're out there fighting just as hard.

I agree. Basically, my test for misogyny is whether the story makes sense if I switch everyone's gender. So, as long as the writers are writing believable and strong humans, then I don't really care who lives and who dies.

It made me wonder if, in this AU, John had decided to go be a hunter on his own, and left the boys with them. It felt like a stronger relationship than "after Stanford". Hmmm, you have a VERY good point. Mind you, it couldn't have been their whole lives. Bill Harvelle died in 1995, so it would have been anytime after that that Bobby and Ellen got together, and then still after that for Dean and Sam to join. So, sometime between 1995 and 2002? It doesn't leave a lot of time for romance...but we do know that at some point Bobby threatens John with a shot-gun, so maybe there was a disagreement about the kids before Bobby and Ellen hooked up. It could have gone in that order. Sam and Dean left with Bobby first, and then Ellen and Jo

[jennytork]

Hi, new friend here...I commented in two posts on my journal about this episode and wanted to share.

http://jennytork.livejournal.com/556043.html#comments

and

http://jennytork.livejournal.com/557410.html#comments

[hells_half_acre]

Hello! Welcome! :)

Great comments on the episode! And both very astute.

I didn't even notice the wedding band. :P

And you are very correct about Dean, and the problem of who nurtures the nurturer - of course, the additional problem is how do you nurture someone who refuses to admit they need it?

[borgmama1of5]

Ellen, to me, in this episode, isn't so much Ellen as a representation of what the boys crave (Bobby too) and that is for a feminine influence to love them and look after/out-for them. She is what they cannot have. She is what they continually fail to protect. There's a metaphor in there somewhere.

And here we are in season 12 and your observation still holds true under even harder circumstances--Mom being back and still not being there for them. Ouch.

[hells_half_acre]

Indeed! It's a layer of the current season that I'm really interested in. Supernatural has been a tragedy of the suppressed/destroyed feminine for 11 years, and now it has a chance to explore what the feminine means - what it is and what it isn't, and possibly the destructive effects of sacredness.